John B wrote:
On Mar 8, 8:48 am, chr1s wrote:
The arrangement for Thameslink and LUL at the Pentonville site will be
the same, certainly one exit isolated from the main complex direct to
Pentonville Road, with maybe an alternate to St Mungos passage area onto
greys Inn Road.

So you're saying the emergency route from the Victoria and Piccadilly
lines to the Pentonville site will be preserved?

Another question about this is that it is isolated from the main
complex. and to comply with the KX enquiry recommendations about the
relief passage from the main complex in use now being blocked and
locked, I was given to understand that it is isolated and will be locked
from the main complex when all is completed,

What's the relief passage you're referring to here? The only physical
link I'm aware of between the KXSP complex and the Pentonville site is
the route from the Victoria and Piccadilly lines - and the KX enquiry
recommended this should be open at all time (and certainly not blocked
and locked). Is there a second route between Thameslink and KX...?

and that from any spot in
the main complex there will be at least two independent routes out of
the station to the streets

....so the Vic and Pic passage *will* remain open?

The passageway that is in current use to thameslink will not be used.
There are a number of new tunnels for passengers which do not intersect
with the current infrastructure and the lift system from plateform
levels to ticket hall levels.
The current thameslink area will not be available except for de training
of thameslink and Crcle/H&C/metropolatan trains in both directions to
either Pentonville or Greys Inn Road. as
The design and and construction has had the recommendations of the
enquiry in the forefront, and with quite different pedestrian traffic
flows and congestion when the all parts are operational, the prediction
it will be about 70% full at the busiest time. with a 20% growth on
current usage of CTRL figures out of Waterloo, and the transfer of
traffic from Thameslink and FCC services up the WCML and Hertford loop.

I hope you mean "ECML" here. But I'm now even more confused: the plan
for TL2K+n is:

* FCC ECML long-distance services will move from KX Suburban to SPTL
* Hertford loop services and other FCC locals will continue to
terminate at Moorgate on weekdays (I'm not sure a decision has been
made on whether to keep them in KX Suburban at weekends or to run them
full-time to Moorgate)
* FCC MML services will carry on pretty much as now (but longer, and
from SPTL instead of KXTL)

Presumably this has been the basis for the pedestrian modelling...?

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