traveller wrote:
Richard J. Wrote:
What you completely fail to acknowledge, apparently, is that it's
your responsibility to ensure that you pay for your journey. If
you use a PAYG Oyster without knowing what the balance is, and
neglect to notice both the red light and the reject bleep, then
it's *your fault*. Stop trying to blame the driver and the
revenue inspector for your own negligence.

Remind us all who said the following on another thread:

'There is indeed a coloured light that you could hardly miss if you
were interested in it, but TfL have never AFAIK told passengers to
check that it changes to green when they touch their Oyster cards on
the
reader. In the absence of such advice, it's not surprising that
people ignore this unlabelled light and don't understand its
significance.'

Oh that's right, it was YOU wasn't it, 'Richard J.'?! Make your
mind up Mr. Self-Righteous!!!

There's no inconsistency. If a passenger ignored the lights through
ignorance, he would still be responsible for ensuring that his Oyster
card had enough credit, just as, if he had a season ticket, he would be
responsible for ensuring it hadn't expired.

But that old post of mine that you discovered (full marks for detective
work!) was sent in October 2005, and the bit about the lack of advice
from TfL is no longer true. Since September 2006, the TfL fares
leaflets have included advice to check for the green light. The January
2007 edition says "Please check for the green light when you touch in
and/or out to ensure that your Oyster card has been validated. Failure
to touch in and/or out may result in a penalty fare or you being
prosecuted."

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Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)