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Old July 3rd 07, 09:15 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Jack Taylor Jack Taylor is offline
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Default No-Smoking policy at open-air NR stations

asdf wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 21:41:22 +0100, Obadiah Jones wrote:

As there doesn't seem to have been any comments on this since the ban
came in, I thought I'd share the text of an email I've just sent to
Southern:

"I notice that you have placed an 'it is illegal to smoke on these
premises' sign near the entrance to the Up platform at East Dulwich
station.

Both the entrance ramp and the platform are actually entirely in the
open air, and it is therefore emphatically not 'illegal' to smoke
there.


Under the railway byelaws, it is in fact illegal to smoke anywhere
where the railway has decided to prohibit smoking.


Just to add to that, some TOCs (Midland Mainline springs to mind) banned
smoking *anywhere* on their premises well before the July 1st regulations
(MML did so from the beginning of the year or thereabouts, IIRC). As others
have mentioned, railway premises are not public spaces - they are private
property on which members of the general public are entertained, subject to
the conditions of the owner/occupier - usually the holding of a valid ticket
to travel. Therefore rules/regulations over and above national laws can be
implemented as a condition of admittance.