On Sep 8, 11:32 am, bobrayner wrote:
On 8 Sep, 01:08, MIG wrote:

For instance:
"You don't see bolts falling off planes and space ships. What Network
Rail should be doing is bringing all work into the public ownership"

Yes it should.

I thought the safety statistics showed the railways have got safer
since privatisation. Crow knows better, though; state-owned bolts
never fail, unlike those evil profit-motivated bolts!

So are you saying that the cause of the crash was simply that some
bolts failed? I don't remember reading that in the report. Oh yeah,
you want an excuse to abuse Bob Crow, referring to things he didn't
say about something that didn't happen.

Your loyalty to the socialist dinosaur seems to have blinded you to
the fact that safety has *improved* since privatisation, that state-
owned infrastructure is no safer, and that bolts do in fact fall off
planes and spaceships. ;-)


This accident had nothing to do with bolts falling off and everything
to do with a bizarre dismantling of the points, it would seem. I
don't know why you repeat the non-sequitur about bolts.



And:
"Management have to take the rap when it goes wrong. We will not allow
our staff to be scapegoats."

Quite right. No one should be scapegoated ever.

So you agree with Crow that "Management" is to blame, rather than
whoever made the actual mistake?


Let's read the report before judging that (I have only read the
preliminary so far). It seems to be more to do with a bizarre
decision and subsequent deliberate actions than any kind of "mistake".



And:
"If points failure is the cause there must be a robust investigation
into the management system's failings that led to it and there must be
no attempt simply to scapegoat staff."

I really don't see the problem with that.

The problem is that "Management" does not necessarily make every
mistake. The poor downtrodden labourers aren't necessarily infallible.
I'm surprised that even a Crow-supporter can't see that.


Why would you think I couldn't, or that Bob Crow couldn't? It's Bob
Crow's job to look after RMT members. There are plenty more powerful
people already looking after the management.