"derek" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:39:46 -0000, "iantheengineer"
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Its a case of would it be justified and the answer is no, you cannot have
underground systems everywhere, they are only econmic in cities.

As for the crap roads well thank Mrs Thatcher

?? She was out before the 1st Gulf War, 1990-1991, (13 years ago).

for the years of
underinvestment. The current government is spending loads on improvement

But they spent nowt for Yonks didn't they until it became obvious that
the useless gang of ******* who were running that apology for a
railway we had couldn't run a popcorn stand.

but
it will take toime to sort out all the problems she created when giving
the
yuppies tax breaks in the "good ol 1980s!"


I can't let that go by.

You appear to be confused, M.T. was the author of the privatisation
era, BT, BA, BG ... etc. Yuppiedom started with the deregulation of
the City of London, mid '90s onwards, when a one bedroom flat in the
docklands at £350k came with a "free" Porsche (But no garage!).

Last year was the first since (IIRC) 1957 that there was not one inch
of new motorway. This government have been in power 6 years!

Driving around Scotland this last week reminded me of driving around
the old East Germany. There isn't even uninterupted motorway between
Glasgow,Edinburgh and London (Pick any 2), and the motorway doesn't go
anywhere near Edinburgh city centre, and there isn't even an
uninterupted motorway route to England.

My journey times are longer now by about20% than they were in 1974
when I first took a job involving extensive travelling despite
significantly better cars.

The old A1 has been moved 3 times around Newcastle-upon-Tyne and the
journey still takes longer than when the traffic went over Tyne Bridge
and straight through the middle of the city! It is so bad around the
Metro centre that there is a permanent free breakdown service! It's
obvious what's needed, a proper 3 (at least) lane motorway bypassing
N'castle unencumbered with local traffic and *motorway* onwards to
both Edinburgh and Glasgow.

DG

Okay lets see, so you need to buy something what do you do.

1. Pay for it with money

2. Borrow the money

When labour came to power the country had no money. It was in a huge
deficit.It has taken time to gather the money for spending.

Since labour came to power councils bid for work using local transport
plans.

Large road building schemes are NOT the answer. it has been proven that
traffic grows according to network capacity. So we build another M25 result
more traffic

Local transport plans are developed by local authorities to best solve the
problems they have / prepare for the future.

Each plan is judged with others and funding allocatr=ted by central
government.

As for the inital state of the roads ask any local government highway
engineer for the truth ( i was one) and they will tell you.

Yuppies were synonimus with the 80's its a known FACT. FACT She sold off all
of the national utilities, which now make huge profits for private
shareholders instead of such funding going back into th coffers. All that MT
ever did was to lower taxes at the expense of everything else. If you were
working all well and good but if you were not ( highest levels of
unemployment for years) then tough.