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Old October 3rd 07, 03:21 PM posted to uk.transport.london,uk.railway
Tom Anderson Tom Anderson is offline
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Default Crossrail noes fail

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, tim..... wrote:

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On 3 Oct, 10:32, "tim....." wrote:
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On Oct 2, 7:22 pm, Offramp wrote:

So it looks like the crazy old Crossrail is going ahead! Coooooool!

Question is , will they do the sensible thing and build the tunnels
to UIC gauge so there is at least the possibility of running
dedicated double deck trains through them

Double deck trains don't work on frequently stopping lines with
overlapping journeys like crossrail is expected to be.

The Germans tried them in Munich as a solution to their capacity
problem and promptly took them off again as they added no extra
capacity.

True. Double decker trains are mostly a solution for trains
terminating at a big terminal, since most people will be getting off
at just one stop.


They seem to work quite nicely on the RER in paris.


which only proves that they work in Paris


I'd be interested to hear why you think London (and Munich!) is different
from Paris in this respect.

Because the RER is much more of a regional, rather than suburban, network,
where people are travelling a long way and stops in the middle of town can
be longer?

On the subject of double-decker trains in the UK, and now crossposting to
uk.railway, has anyone seriously looked at doing it for intercity trains?
The WCML is cleared to W12 or some such tall gauge, right? So could we run
double-decker trains on it as is? Does the W12 not extend into the city
terminals (freight not usually needing to go that way)? How much work
would be needed for a London - Brum - Manchester double-decker service?

tom

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