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On Nov 9, 10:47 am, "Paul Scott"
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Completely predictable, but its basically down to pax 'presuming' changes
are going to occur, even when none have been announced. Most discussions
here have repeatedly touched on similar issues. The main one here is that
WJ
is not currently in the zonal fares system, and you might expect regular
WJ
commuters to know that already. Anyway, availability of Oyster PAYG on
the
DC lines may still not result in zonal fares to WJ, just special fares
payable via PAYG, like in zones ABC&D...

Paul

So currently I can buy a ticket watford junction to harrow and
wealdstone and then get on any train (that stops at H&W) without any
issue.

Presumably, on Sunday I will be able to do exactly the same, it will
make no difference?

Seems reasonable - LO is still a TOC just like Silverlink Metro was, there
timetables are still in the NR timetable for next year, and NR fares are
still shown in the usual NR web planners...

But I can't use oyster to pay for that journey on the fast trains (I
asked at Euston last night) but I can use oyster to pay from H&W to
Euston currently. Will I be able to use my paper ticket on the DC line
still?

So the oyster fare is going to be exactly the same price as the
mainline fare but I have to make sure I buy a paper ticket and not use
oyster for the journey.

That's a reasonable assumption, unless an Oyster special introductory fare
is offered, as has been mentioned in the past - but maybe that'll be NLL
only, where other TOCs aren't involved...

It isn't clear to me what is and isn't going to be allowed. If it's
all so obvious then why hasn't someone published it already. The cynic
in me thinks its whoever is taking over the mainline and London
underground rubbing their hands in glee at the penalty fares they are
going to collect over the next few months.

Perhaps the point is simply that nothing about the actual fares or validity
will change, so that's all that needs announcing?

My season ticket expires on 5th December. What is the fare structure
going to be in the new year. Will WJ be zoned then? Will oyster be
valid from WJ on the fast trains? What will the prices be or at least
what will the zones be?


Good questions, but at least some could have been equally relevant even if
the DC lines weren't transferred to TfL. I still think a lot of pax are
presuming that everything will change on Sunday, whereas all the evidence so
far is that it will more or less stay the same, barring Oyster prepay where
available, and many of the possible changes will happen in January.

Paul