On 11 Nov, 09:58, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:24:07 -0800, Mizter T wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:29:50 -0800, Mizter T wrote:

On 10 Nov, 19:06, Paul Corfield wrote:

PAYG *not* valid on London Midland from Watford Junction - Harrow and
Wealdstone. I am waiting for a response to a question as to whether the
above non availability also means no availability of PAYG between
Watford and Euston on London Midland services.

Though that would logically follow. So basically no agreement with
London Midland (at least not yet) for PAYG on their services from
Watford Junction to points south, whilst the availability of PAYG from
H&W to Euston is inherited from Silverlink.

The alleged availability of PAYG on Southern from Watford Jn down to
Clapham Jn comes at some surprise - I can see PAYG being valid from
H&W down to Clapham Jn, but not from Watford Jn. I think it best to
await confirmation (or otherwise) of that!

The person who provided the info is very close to the Oyster and fares
issues. I trust his information to be completely accurate.

Fare enough, that sounds very authoritative. I just found it to be
slightly odd, not least as both Southern and London Midland are Govia
owned companies. I guess that London Midland has money to lose if it
were to accept PAYG from Watford Jn, whilst Southern wouldn't. Still,
pity the poor passenger!

http://www.southernrailway.com/main.php?page_id=461

confirms the Southern PAYG acceptance between Watford and Clapham
Junctions.
--
Paul C


Well, wow - straight from the horses mouth - thanks Paul for flagging
that up. I must say I'm a bit surprised to find that Southern have
provided a straightforward webpage that explains their acceptance of
PAYG on this route, though really I shouldn't be! Alas the line
diagram on that page doesn't make it clear that there are two quite
different services up the West London Line - i.e. Southern and London
Overground.

As far as I can see that's the first bit of passenger facing
communication on the web about the acceptance of Oyster PAYG from
Watford Junction.

I note this bit in the text:
"Please do not use your PAYG Oyster Card to pass through the gates if
you are NOT travelling on the above services to Watford Junction or
intermediate stations."

I'm afraid to say that this is going to be a problem at Clapham
Junction, with people erroneously thinking that Oyster PAYG is now
good for all train services from that station. I expect Clapham
Junction will unfortunately produce a steady flow of unresolved
journeys.