"Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote in message
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Paul Scott wrote:

You are mistaken - the NLL is still part of NR, as stated in:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...avel-guide.pdf

"London Overground is part of the National Rail network and the National
Rail Conditions of Carriage apply for journeys made on it unless we say
otherwise in this ticketing and travel guide."

True but isn't "National Rail" used in customer interface terminology to
encompass what isn't Overground (or rather what Joe Public calls "the
overground")?

Yes - and I think they've painted themselves into a corner with this. Many
of their 'customer' publications refer to LO and 'other National Rail'.
Often the tone of TfL press releases etc is to separate 'new improved London
Overground' from grotty old 'National Rail', whereas the term 'overground'
had a well known meaning of its own already, and that's without bringing the
ill fated 'Overground Network' into the discussion. Its all a bit
inconsistent...

Paul