On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mizter T wrote:

On 11 Dec, 02:13, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Mizter T wrote:

So the OP might have to be on the ball when they get to Ingatestone if
they want to get to Newbury Park. Presumably, technically speaking if he
wants to get on the rail replacement bus to Newbury Park tube station
he'd need a rail ticket valid for at least some of the journey beyond
Ingatestone - but I doubt anyone would check his ticket before they let
him on the bus.

I'd have one anyway, seeing as how i want to get to Swindon at the end
of it.

Yes - I did think that just after I'd posted it - but then I thought
of a complication... but I've just resolved it!

Your ticket from East Angular will of course get you as far as
Liverpool Street on the Central line. You will also presumably have an
inclusive cross-London transfer, as indicated by a Maltese cross on
your ticket (or perhaps even a separately issued ticket for the cross-
London Underground journey)...

But cross-London LU journeys are for passengers making a transfer
between London mainline termini - and Lancaster Gate is not a mainline
terminus, not do I think it counts as one.

Ooh, good thinking.

But I was quite unsure of whether a Liverpool Street to Lancaster Gate
journey would count as a cross-London transfer - as Lancaster Gate isn't
a terminus station. But after rummaging around the Natonal Fares Manual
and when I was just about to give up I found the list - it's in Section
A, on page A4 [1] - and top-marks to those who decide on these rules, as
Lancaster Gate is indeed on the list.

And good thinking LU! Or, er, NR.

Some stations have fallen off the list - I've a vague recollection of
having read past uk.r discussions on this issue - I think the list used
to include Brixton - not that useful, and New Cross - potentially quite
useful, at least until the ELL closes.

And doubly so when you can get to Highbury & Islington from there.
Although by then it won't be a LU line, i suppose.

Does anyone know how the Overground is treated for routing and transfers?
As part of LU, or as a railway line in its own right? Presumably the
latter for the existing bits; i'd hope the extended ELL will join it.

tom

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