JB wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:37:17 -0600, David Jackman pleasereplytogroup
wrote:

From the National Rail Conditions of Carriage:

"19. Using a combination of tickets

You may use two or more tickets for one journey as long as together they
cover the entire journey and one of the following applies:

(a) they are both Zonal Tickets (unless special conditions prohibit
their use);

(b) the train you are in calls at the station where you change from one
ticket to another; or

(c) one of the tickets is a Season Ticket (which for this purpose does
not include Season Tickets or travel passes issued on behalf of a
passenger transport executive or
local authority) or a leisure travel pass, and the other ticket(s)
is/are not."

In this case (a) does not apply as Woking to Surbiton is not "Zonal",
(b) doesn't if the train doesn't stop at Surbiton and (c) doesn't as
both the tickets are season tickets and neither is issued by a PTE or
local authority.

So the combination is not valid.

So would a Cambridge to R456 season ticket and a TfL zones 1 to 3
annual travelcard be valid for a non stop Cambridge to Kings Cross,
since it would appear both are zonal tickets?

Yes, that would be fine.


If so, if you had the TfL zones 1 to 3 on an Oyster card, would this be
a problem, as you would need to use the Oyster to out and back into
Kings Cross?


No problem at all. The requirement to touch-in and out is only really
exists when one is using an Oyster card in Pay-as-you-go mode (or when
combining a Travelcard with PAYG to go outside the zonal validity of
that Travelcard - though obviously only on routes where PAYG is
currently accepted, i.e. the whole Underground network and a limited
number of National Rail routes).

If you were doing this you'd probably have to explain it if and when
you met a ticket inspector, but the combination is perfectly valid.

However it costs more! All prices below are for a month...

Cambridge - R1256 Travelcard - £380.20

versus

Cambridge - R456 - £314.90
plus zones 1-3 Travelcard - £109.10
Total - £424.