Yorkie wrote:

On Jan 23, 5:55�pm, Mizter T wrote:
What would be good would be if National Rail systems were updated so
that they too could issue Travelcards that include zones 7-9. In a
sense they can, as they use the actual station description - but I'm
unclear whether such Travelcards that include actual stations as the
origin (or destination - but I think only origin is possible) can be
used for unlimited travel as opposed to just being valid for a
straight return journey.

In the days of Zones A-D, I was told that asking for an All Zones
travelcard issued *from* Amersham to Zones 1-6, would count as the NR
equivalent to All Zones + A-D, and this was the same price with a
railcard (GBP4.80) as a regular 'All Zones'.


AIUI such a Travelcard would be issued with the origin as (say)
Amersham - it is not possible to issue it with Amersham as the
destination, I suppose because the destination has to be R1256.

But that is very interesting to know that the Railcard discounted
price of such a ticket (£4.80) is the same as the zones 1-6 Day
Travelcard. This does make sense, as when LU issues (or at least used
to issue) Railcard-discounted Day Travelcards you'd get zones A-D
thrown in "for free" as well.


We had no problems purchasing the tickets (at East Croydon). A friend
put this ticket through the barriers at Amersham, confident the ticket
would return as the system would know it was valid for unlimited trips
in Zones A-D, and he was correct; the ticket was returned and he was
able to use it to get back in through the barriers.


That's good to know. I was recently with a friend who tried to buy a
(non Railcard-discounted) Travelcard including all zones to Amersham
from New Cross station (before the ELL closed), but the ticket clerk
suggested that it was "only really" valid for one return journey to/
from Amersham that day to/from the boundary of zone 6 (and did also
indicate that it would be issued with Amersham as the origin
station).

My friend needed to make at least three journeys between London and
Amersham that day, so whilst I would have just bought the ticket on
offer and taken a bet, they instead opted to use Oyster PAYG and so
take the East London Line from New Cross.


Does this mean that a Amersham to Zones 1-6 travelcard is now
effectively a Zones 1-9 travelcard? Or does it have the validity of
the old A-D?


Very interesting point.

It cannot make much sense that a ticket that has 'Amersham to zones
1-6 Travelcard' printed on it would be valid from Watford High Street
(last zonal station on the DC line) southwards.

One wonders whether National Rail ticket offices are in fact able to
even issue a pseudo zones 1-9 Travelcard whatsoever, given the
requirement to use "actual station descriptions". I have a strong
suspicion they cannot.