On 24 Jan, 18:20, MIG wrote:

On 24 Jan, 18:13, Mizter T wrote:

MIG wrote:
On 24 Jan, 16:57, Mizter T wrote:

The fact that they are often (always?) timetabled to take longer from
Denmark Hill going non-stop than the ones that stop at three stations
via Battersea Park implies some reason for sloth, ie the low route.

But that's just plain incorrect! Looking at off-peak times, the SLL
stopping service is timetabled for 13 minutes, whilst the non-stop
Dartford - Victoria takes 11 minutes.

Things are all a bit more complicated at peak times, when both
services taking a bit longer (except for a couple of the non-stop
trains taking a minute less) - however, I can't see any instances of
the non-stop trains taking longer to get to Victoria than the stopping
SLL services.

So, whilst the non-stop trains aren't much quicker than the stoppers,
they still are.

Maybe it was the first one I looked at. Not to hand now, but I think
I was comparing the 1623 and 1646 (and wondering why the former was
shown on the PIS as terminating at Battersea Park, as in the
situations where the first train doesn't arrive first, so they show
the stop before as the destination).


Sorry, you're absolutely right in the case of those specific trains -
from Denmark Hill the 1623 SLL stopper takes 15 mins, the 1646 non-
stopper takes 17 mins.

However as far as I can see that really is the (somewhat bizarre) sole
exception to the rule that the non-stoppers are quicker.

Incidentally lately I've really taken to using the clutter free
http://traintimes.org.uk/ to, er, get train times!

It sources its results directly from the National Rail journey planner
database, so unlike with other journey planners there aren't going to
be any discrepancies in the results between what it gives and what you
get from the 'official' NR Journey Planner.