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Old February 14th 08, 01:04 PM posted to uk.railway,uk.transport.london
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On 14 Feb, 12:11, Mr Thant
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On 14 Feb, 09:16, "Richard J." wrote:

Except for the Paddington-Greenford service. I think that it and GOBLIN
are the only two diesel services that operate entirely within Greater
London.


A lot of local London rail services leave the boundary though. I'd
count the Chiltern most-stops service to Gerrard's Cross. I think the
next the FGW semi-fasts to Oxford, calling several stops in London.
There's very little after that - and I'm fairly sure the diesel South
West Trains service suggested upthread is pick-up/set-down only at
Clapham Junction, so that doesn't count.

U


The down (ex Waterloo) South West Trains diesel services are pick up
only at Clapham Junction. This is specifically noted in the relevant
SWT timetable booklet, and they are not advertised as stopping at CJ
on the Waterloo departure boards.

The up diesel services (to Waterloo) however are not restricted as
pick-up only. I think they are advertised as Waterloo services on the
departure screens at CJ, as well as on the big LED departure board in
the southern ticket hall/ concourse. However the signs and posters at
CJ direct all Waterloo bound passengers to platforms 3, 4 or 10 from
whence very regular trains depart.

The longer distance services, including the diesel trains, stop at
platform 7 (though at times of disruption I have seen them stop at
platform 8, which the opposite platform face to p7 on an island
platform).

On the bridge and in the subway there are platform specific LED based
PIS displays - however those for platform 7 and 8 do not display the
next train information, merely some generic "Welcome to CJ" text.
However, down at platform level the PIS displays *do* show the times
of the next three trains to Waterloo. You can see the one on platform
7 from the top of the stairs on the bridge if you bend over a bit!

I've taken trains from platform 7 a few times, in part just because I
can and because it's something different from the norm, also because
they don't stop at Vauxhall (or Queenstown Rd) so notionally they
could get to Waterloo faster - however this often seemed to backfire,
as those trains often seem to get held outside Waterloo waiting for a
platform whilst across the tracks one can see the less exotic suburban
services trundle right into an empty waiting platform.

Anyway, I would agree that these up trains don't count as they're not
providing a local service - between CJ and Waterloo that is quite
bountifully provided by suburban electric trains.