On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:34:14 -0700 (PDT), MIG
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On Apr 23, 8:15*pm, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:09:21 +0100, "Peter Smyth"
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"Paul Weaver" wrote in message
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On 23 Apr, 17:25, MarkVarley - MVP
wrote:
I was wondering if anyone knows what the official (or unofficial)
position is on breaking a bus journey?
I quite often get on a 38 at the start of it's route, jump off in
islington to go to the bank (5-10 minutes, I usually get the next 38)
and continue my journey to wherever, usually picadilly. ought I be
paying twice?

Yes, and the following are the legal ways of boarding a bus:
1) Board at the front with a saver, driver takes half the saver
2) Board at the front and touch your oyster in, money is deducted
(unless it's a travelcard/capped etc)
3) Board a murderbus at the back and touch your oyster in, money is
deducted
4) Board at the front and show a paper travelcard
5) Board at the back with a valid paper or oyster travelcard and dont
touch in.
6) Outside central london you can board at the front and pay cash

IF you PAYG and dont touch in, you are a fare dodger and are
committing a crime.

The driver wont let you on until you pay, aside from on murderbusses,
where you must touch in unless you have a travelcard.

Breaking a journey on a bus has never been allowed.

On a bendybus is there any way for a ticket inspector to tell whether
you touched in on that bus, or the previous bus (assuming they are both
on the same route)?

Peter Smyth

From what I've seen ticket inspectors can see only bus number and time
when they check your oyster, and I doubt a 5 minute break would be
noticed, but I was curious if there was an allowance for such with the
logic that I'm boarding a bus and paying for an hours journey so have
paid from point 'a' to point 'b', it seems the powers that be don't
agree with that.

The answer seems to be "that's just the way it is". It is an area
where public transport compares very badly with private transport.

For example, you don't pay twice the insurance or use twice the petrol
if you stop at a shop during a car journey, so forward-thinking public
transport providers should be trying to make sure that they can
provide an equivalent "stop-at-a-shop" facility in order to compete.

It's also inconsistent within public transport, where you pay per
vehicle on buses, but by start and end point on LU.

If I go home before 1900, it's cheaper on two buses (£1.80) than on a
combination of two or three Underground lines (£2.00).

If I go home after 1900, it's cheaper on two or three Undground lines
(£1.50) than on two buses (£1.80), just because of paying per vehicle
instead of per journey.

I know that it's just the way it is, but it really could be better and
I wish some alternatives could be seriously considered.


It would surely be dead easy to set the system whereby if you board a
bus within, say, an hour of boarding another on the same route in the
same direction you are not charged again.

Some days I only do the same bus route twice with a couple of stops so
I could pay £3.60 to go to Victoria and back instead of £1.80 to cover
the same distance in more or less the same time on the same bus route.
not enough to be getting into travel card price capping but it adds
up.
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Mark Varley
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www.TwistedPhotography.co.uk
London, England.