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Old May 7th 08, 04:59 PM posted to uk.transport.london
Steve Dulieu Steve Dulieu is offline
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"Ian Jelf" wrote in message
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Boltar writes
On May 6, 2:24 pm, (Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:
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(Boltar) wrote:
I suspect the only thing bus driving and train driving have in common
is that the vehicles both have wheels and they jobs are both called
"driving".

Not even that. The job title of the man at the front of a tube train has
been "motorman" for over 1000 years.


I thought that was an american expression, never heard it used over
here. Even the drivers call themselves drivers.


I've heard it used when referring to traditional *tram* drivers in the UK
(ie Blackpool but not Croydon, if you see what I mean).

I've never heard it used for a "driver" on the London Underground but that
doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Any LU staff care to comment?


Pre one person operation the job title was "Motorman", with the term used by
most staff to describe themselves, although if speaking to someone not
conversent with LU jargon the term "Driver" would often avoid confusion.
Post one person operation, the job title changed to "Train Operator" or the
abriviation T/Op. The terms "Operator", "Tee-Op", "Top" & "Driver" are all
used interchangably by staff both between themselves and themselves and in
exchanges with the general public. (Although "Tee-Op" less so). The term
"Motorman" is heard very infrequently thses days.
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Cheers, Steve.
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