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Old November 19th 08, 11:50 AM posted to uk.transport.london
Walter Briscoe Walter Briscoe is offline
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Default Out of Station TfL interchanges

In message of Tue,
18 Nov 2008 23:55:26 in uk.transport.london, Tom Anderson
writes
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Walter Briscoe wrote:


[snip]

They answered me, yesterday. Unfortunately, I can't copy the data un
the answer as they put the following in the reply: "Brief extracts of
the material may be reproduced under the fair dealing provisions of
the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1998". I think they mistakenly
refer to the 1988 Act, but know nothing and may be wrong.


I imagine you're right. But: whilst they have copyright over the text
of the document, that doesn't cover the information within it -
copyright is over expressions, not ideas. Over the information, they
(may) have a database right, which stems from a bit of legislation that
amended CDPA 1988, and did indeed come into force in 1998:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1997/19973032.htm

Which is all a bit mental and one of the bits of IP law i really don't
understand.


The words used are "Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1998 (sections 29
and 30)". You refer to a statutory instrument.

In message of Tue, 18 Nov 2008
23:09:23 in uk.transport.london, Peter Smyth
writes
[snip]
It seems you weren't the only one who asked.

http://londonreconnections.blogspot....tion-interchan
ges-current.html#links


where there is a reference to http://www.dragondark.co.uk/osi/osi.htm
which, prima facie, is a copy of the data I got.

This is a transposition of the data to halve the number of lines. It
shows some weirdness around King's Cross. I added ? to show data, not
supplied but implied by symmetry. I think the data is wrong here as it
shows OSI between "King's Cross St. Pancras Met" (with Circle,
Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan services?) and "King's Cross St.
Pancras Tube" (with Northern, Piccadilly and Victoria services?). I was
irritated when such OSI stopped working once it became possible to go
between those parts of the station without traversing two gatelines.

Time limits (in minutes) for free Pay As You Go Out of Station TfL
Interchanges
A-B Station B type Station A
type B-A
40 Aldgate LU London Fenchurch Street
NR 30
30 Archway LU Upper Holloway
NR 30
50 Baker Street LU London Marylebone
NR 30
30 Bank Central/Northern/DLR LU Bank Waterloo & City
LU 30
40 Bank LU London Fenchurch Street
NR 30
30 Blackfriars LU London Blackfriars
NR 30
30 Bow Church DLR Bow Road
LU 30
30 Canary Wharf DLR Canary Wharf
LU 30
10 Canary Wharf LU Heron Quays
DLR 30
50 Edgware Road H&C LU London Marylebone
NR 30
30 Elephant & Castle LU Elephant & Castle
NR 30
30 Euston LU Euston Square
LU 30
30 Euston LU London Euston
NR 45
50 Euston Square LU London Euston
NR 30
25 Finchley Road LU Finchley Road & Frognal
NR 25
30 Hackney Central NR Hackney Downs
NR 30
30 Hammersmith D&P LU Hammersmith H&C
LU 30
25 Hanger Lane LU Park Royal
LU 25
30 Kenton NR Northwick Park
LU 30
30 King's Cross St. Pancras Met LU King's Cross St. Pancras Tube
LU 30
30 King's Cross St. Pancras Met LU London King's Cross
NR ?
? King's Cross St. Pancras Met NR London King's Cross
LU 30
30 King's Cross St. Pancras Met LU St Pancras International
NR 30
30 King's Cross St. Pancras Tube LU London King's Cross
NR ?
30 King's Cross St. Pancras Tube LU St Pancras International
NR 30
? King's Cross St. Pancras Tube NR London King's Cross
LU 30
30 Leytonstone LU Leytonstone High Road
NR 30
30 Limehouse DLR Limehouse
NR 30
45 Liverpool Street LU London Liverpool Street
NR 30
30 London Bridge LU London Bridge
NR 30
30 London Fenchurch Street NR Monument
LU 30
30 London Fenchurch Street NR Tower Gateway
DLR 40
30 London Fenchurch Street NR Tower Hill
LU 40
30 London King's Cross NR St Pancras International
NR 30
30 London Marylebone NR Marylebone
LU 40
45 London Paddington NR Paddington
LU 30
30 Shadwell LU Shadwell
DLR 30
30 Sudbury Hill LU Sudbury Hill, Harrow
NR 30
30 Tottenham Hale LU Tottenham Hale
NR 30
30 Tower Gateway DLR Tower Hill
LU 30
30 Walthamstow Central LU Walthamstow Central
NR 30
30 Waterloo LU Waterloo W&C
LU 30
30 Waterloo Jubilee LU Waterloo W&C
LU 30
30 West Hampstead LU West Hampstead NLL
NR 30
30 West Hampstead LU West Hampstead Thameslink
NR 30
30 West Hampstead NLL NR West Hampstead Thameslink
NR 30
20 White City LU Wood Lane
LU 20

NR = National Rail
DLR = Docklands Light Railway
LU = London Underground

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Walter Briscoe