On Dec 21, 5:19*pm, "Richard J." wrote:
"MIG" wrote in message

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On Dec 21, 2:13 pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 21 Dec, 13:23, MIG wrote:

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I expect that open platforms would be a far greater risk nowadays,
with drivers effectively required to avoid letting people get on or
off in order to keep to timings (and all stops being request stops
now).

Are all stops request stops now? I know there was a consultation on
this (to which I didn't respond, grrr) but is this now official
policy, or just your interpretation of what happens in reality?

That's an interesting point ... firstly, yes I was referring
facetiously to what is effectively the situation now (having been
whisked past a white-coloured stop at Trafalgar Square in the rush
hour when I was standing by the door, plus other examples, I am in no
doubt).

Merely standing by the door is not a reliable indication that you want to
get off at the next stop. *AFAIK it's been the case for many years that
passengers wishing to alight should press a red button, whether it's a
compulsory or request stop (that distinction being meaningful only for
prospective passengers at the stop).

Indeed not, which is why I always now press the button (and also get
up later, wasting more time).

However, this merely confirms what I said, which is that all stops are
now request stops. It used to the the case that a bus stop being
white in colour was all that was required to make the bus stop there.
London Transport didn't distinguish between people inside and outside
the bus.


But the thing about the proposal was that drivers would have to stop
at all stops if there was someone there, even current request stops,
so they'd probably end up stopping much more than they currently do.

Maybe that's why it doesn't seem to have been implemented. I haven't found
any decision mentioned in the TfL board minutes. *Does anyone know if a
decision was made or are they still thinking about it? *Consultation ended
in July 2007.

Maybe the responses suitably riduculed the proposal, given the
reality, and they realised that they had already got away with a
reduction in stops well beyond what they were proposing.