On 12 Jan, 16:32, MIG wrote:

On Jan 12, 4:11*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On 12 Jan, 14:03, "Michael R N Dolbear" wrote:

(questions of Richmond - CJ journeys plus permutations snipped)

Also, if such a journey was made who would get the money ? and would
SWT get it all next year ?

You raised a similar point in the "Oysterisation" thread so I've
addressed the broad point there.

Good question about what would happen in this situation. One presumes
that a Richmond or Wimbledon to Clapham Jn journey would have to be
charged according to the higher fare NR scale (when using Oyster PAYG)
- though perhaps a very small portion of the money might go to LU
based on the idea that people do take wacky routes, especially ones
that appear on the Tube Map as opposed to ones that don't (and the
direct SWT line doesn't).

A further question would be how would a Richmond to Wimbledon journey
be charged (and resulting revenue distributed) - I can see that some
people would travel by District line all the way, though going by SWT
and changing at CJ would be a far better route. And changing at Putney
for East Putney would avoid going into zone 2 whatsoever.-

If the Putneys became an outerchange, it was raise the old question of
whether touching along the way can override the route assumed by
Oyster between the start and end points (if that was different). *That
is, while adjusting to treat two journeys as one continuation, could
it then still use the data about the two journeys to know that the end
to end journey wasn't by a different route?


Indeed - a very good question that.

In fact I took a slightly nutty journey last year which ended up
testing something along these lines out - I was actually accompanying
some friends part of their way home but it also provided a chance to
experiment. I don't think I've mentioned this before on here, so it
obviously only got as far as the virtual and ever-growing 'to post on
utl' pile! On with the story...

I entered at Queen's Park and went up to Willesden Jn before taking
the NLL all the way to Hackney Central (friends alighting en-route).
From Hackney Central I left the station, touching-out on the way, and
walked to Hackney Downs station where I then touched in - bear in mind
that these two Hackney stations are a valid 'outerchange' (aka OOSI) -
then I caught a train as far as Bethnal Green, alighted and touched-
out on exiting the station.

I expected to be charged for a single zone 2 journey - the transfer in
Hackney confirming my route - but I was charged for a zone 1&2
journey. Looking at the Fare finder the fares from Kensal Green,
Queen's Park and points south thereof all the fares are presumed to
take a route via central London and zone 1. In and of itself, that's
fare enough, but given that I has specifically taken a route which
didn't go through zone 1 - and the Hackney outerchange proved as much
- I was, and indeed still am, a little quizzical about this.

I understand the theory is that all origination and destination
stations (i.e. pairs of stations) have a fare set for journeys between
them. The basic question, as you say, is whether that can be
overridden according to things that happen en-route - i.e.
outerchanges passed through.

This whole subject probably deserves a thread of its own on utl, so
perhaps I'll start one in the near future - there's enough other stuff
going on now to deal with (for my pea brained head at least!).