On 29 Jan, 15:08, "Andrew Heenan" wrote:

wrote :

I'm not claiming an answer either way. *But simply stating that everyones
journey is +8 minutes slower isn't right. For myself, at the moment, I'd
prefer the old slower times from Waterloo than faster ones from StPi or
Stratford. From my front door to Paris Thingy du Nord, that would be
easier and probably take about the same time.

Fair point; I'm not arguing.
But the only times that TOCs care about are end-to-end times; London to
Paris matters, Stratford International to Lille (or even Paris) doesn't.

Agree, unless of course Stratford Int'l starts providing a significant
number of passengers, especially if said passengers are paying pricey
first class fares.


Let's face it, if they really cared about individual passengers, they
wouldn't have invented Ebbsfleet at all, and they'd have kept Waterloo
International open (as, for years, they promised they would).

How do you figure that with regards to Ebbsfleet?