On 13 Feb, 14:59, Mr Thant
wrote:
On 13 Feb, 14:36, "Lüko Willms" wrote:
* That would mean that the full orbital line is to be operated under
the "London Overground" brand and by LOROL, right?
The North London Line and West London Line are already under London
Overground control. The East London Line will open in the next year-
ish (as a London Overground/LOROL service), and this new branch will
mean trains from the ELL run along the South London Line to meet the
West London Line at Clapham Junction.
There won't be proper orbital trains, as the ELL/SLL will be operated
separately from the other lines. You'll have to change at Clapham
Junction and Dalston, Canonbury or Highbury to do a full lap. Possibly
at Willesden Junction too.
This TfL produced map *might* help to illustrate the matter - I found
it on the London Reconnections blog (note it's fairly large):
http://mizter.t.googlepages.com/ellx2.jpg
I say *might* as it doesn't do a good job of showing the situation at
Willesden Junction (top left). The West London Line which comes up
from Clapham Junction (via Shepherd's Bush) is shown as approaching
Willesden Jn station from the south west, as if trains could then
continue up on the DC line to Harlesden and eventually to Watford Jn -
that's wrong, as the line actually approaches more of less directly
from the south.
The line used by London Overground trains is shown on this streetmap
just above the arrow:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/oldmap.sr...2259&ay=182424
This means that trains can in fact travel from Clapham Junction up the
West London Line (WLL) through Willesden Junction and then on to
Kensal Rise and points east on the North London Line (NLL). A few peak
times services currently do just that, otherwise passengers have to
change between WLL and NLL trains at Willesden Jn. In the future there
may be more through services between the WLL and NLL.
Also, to elaborate on the Dalston situation - there will be two
separate stations there, Dalston Junction (on the ELLX) and Dalston
Kingsland (on the NLL) - the former is being (re)built at the moment
whilst the latter already exists. If I've got this right, on the ELLX
8tph will continue on from Dalton Jn to Highbury & Islington (calling
at Canonbury) whilst 4tph will terminate at Dalston Jn.