On Jun 6, 5:56*pm, MIG wrote:

On 6 June, 17:44, Mr Thant
wrote:

On 6 June, 17:29, Paul Corfield wrote:

Did you touch out at Wembley Central? *If you didn't then I can fully
understand why a touch in at Wembley Stadium would, in fact, end your
original journey from Picc Circus (as recorded on your card).

It should still allow an onward journey though, shouldn't it? My
understanding is that if you touch a free-standing validator your
journey is still able to be reopened - so if he'd have touched out at
Marylebone it would extended the end point of journey. This is
certainly how it's behaved for me.

Or in other words, the gripper's machine (or the gripper) isn't
programmed to detect this state.

Has this been tried for definite, like if you touch at every validator
along the DLR, does it keep on continuing the journey or does it
assume lots of ins and outs? *Does it depend on the timing?

I have tried it for definite on the DLR - at straightforward stations
(i.e. where there's no possibility of interchange with LU or other DLR
routes) it either starts or finishes ones journey, depending on the
state of the card. Unless I've gone mad and am misremembering
everything.


Or if I really did visit someone near Mudchute for an hour, and then
walked on to Crossharbour to start a new journey to Bank, would it
just be read as a continuation of the original journey from down my
way?

No.


Also, I would have assumed that not touching in at Crossharbour would
be against the rules, but if you are right, my touch "out" at Mudchute
would leave my original journey open.

I'm almost certain it wouldn't have though.


Obviously two hours delay would create a new journey.

FWIW the time limit is now two and a half hours, and come September
it'll be a variable limit depending on how far one has travelled and
also AIUI whether one is judged to have used more infrequent NR
services too.


Speaking of incorrectly programmed Oyster machinery, last week I took
a train from Stratford to Tottenham Hale to use the Victoria Line, but
because I went straight to the tube gateline without first touching a
validator on the NR platforms, I was charged £4 for the train journey..
Grrr.

I guess effectively that's the problem I had at the LU gate at Canary
Wharf, not touching the DLR validator previously (when I was young and
naive).

Yes, same problem. Given the scenario at Tottenham Hale, there's
perhaps some argument in making the system a bit more tolerant. Not
sure if this is possible from a technical standpoint however.