On Jun 17, 3:18*pm, MIG wrote:

On 17 June, 15:03, Mizter T wrote:

On Jun 17, 2:56*pm, MIG wrote:

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But it's only a more general case of the problem which already exists
when extending an LU journey beyond the zones of a paper travelcard,
and which TfL has refused to address. *People are currently expected
to get out and wait for a later train, in order to get the wonderful
benefits of Oyster (ie avoid the enormous fare hikes for cash fares)
when extending a zone on LU.

Why shouldn't they still be expected to get out and wait for a later
train? *I think it's appalling that people should ever have to do
that, but it wouldn't be a change resulting from implementation on
National Rail, just a wider range of situations where it might occur.

Change the record.

Solve the problem, and the complaints will stop (OK, I know it's not
your problem to solve).

(1) When Oyster PAYG is eventually rolled out across National Rail in
London, then one should be able to buy Travelcards loaded on Oyster
(or indeed just top-up Oyster PAYG) at station ticket offices (not
sure about any plans for modifying self-service ticket machines). Then
one simply needs to buy the required Travelcard on Oyster, and voila -
problem solved. Except if you don't want your Travelcard to be on
Oyster, in which case whatever.

(2) Walk to the nearest shop that deals in Oyster (aka "Oyster Ticket
Stop") and buy the required Travelcard on Oyster there. Or plan ahead
and buy it in advance when passing such a shop or an LU station.


What is the reasoning behind assuming that the problem would have to
be solved for NR rollout, when TPTB don't think it's worth solving now?

You're conflating different things together, because it suits your
agenda.

I merely presented a few different scenarios of how ITSO-based
ticketing and Oyster would have to be made to somehow work together,
should there be smartcards in the future that host more than one
"logical card" together on one physical card.

Ignoring Oyster and London altogether, the same questions of how local
ITSO-based PAYG schemes would mesh with longer distance ITSO-based
season tickets or carnets arise, if both products were to be held
together on the same physical card.