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Bruce[_2_] November 24th 09 12:22 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botched upgrade - Evening Standard
 
Posted without comment:

by Ross Lydall
24.11.09

Passengers using the Jubilee line face another six months of weekend
closures to allow a botched upgrade to be completed.

The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.

The line, the Tube's newest, has been disrupted more than 100 times in
two years, leaving maintenance firm Tube Lines at loggerheads with
Transport for London over its request for further closures.

Mayor Boris Johnson criticised Tube Lines when it became obvious it
would over-run its 31 December deadline, while the O2 arena at North
Greenwich — where spectators have faced disrupted journeys — branded
the firm “clowns”.

The improvements will allow peak trains to run every two minutes,
increasing capacity by up to 40 per cent. They will make the Jubilee
line the Underground's “workhorse”, carrying up to 800,000 passengers
a day as other lines are rebuilt.

Tube Lines' chief executive, Dean Finch, said: “Yes, the Jubilee line
is going to be late. But I don't think it's right that Tube Lines
should be judged just on that. We have got a tremendous record of
success over the last six or seven years.

"I live on the line. I know how painful it is when the Jubilee line is
closed. We need probably about six more weekend closures to get our
bit done, but we will have to have more closures to train the drivers
and get operators familiar with the system.”

The line will part-close every weekend until Christmas, when it will
shut for four days. It will also close for a weekend in January and
for four days at Easter. Tube Lines, which is also responsible for
maintaining and upgrading the Northern and Piccadilly lines, faces a
£10 million penalty for each month it works into next year.

Geoff Symonds, of the O2's owners, AEG Europe, said: “Any additional
Jubilee line closures are hugely frustrating for us and our customers.
All we can do is continue to work with TfL to minimise the disruption
by providing a robust alternative transport plane.”


For the rest of the article, go to:
http://tinyurl.com/y872kf7
or:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...hed-upgrade.do

Recliner[_2_] November 24th 09 12:35 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botched upgrade - Evening Standard
 
"Bruce" wrote in message

Posted without comment:

by Ross Lydall
24.11.09

Passengers using the Jubilee line face another six months of weekend
closures to allow a botched upgrade to be completed.

The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.


That should stop the trains getting lost in the tunnels!



[email protected] November 24th 09 12:45 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botchedupgrade - Evening Standard
 
On 24 Nov, 13:22, Bruce wrote:
Geoff Symonds, of the O2's owners, AEG Europe, said: “Any additional
Jubilee line closures are hugely frustrating for us and our customers.
All we can do is continue to work with TfL to minimise the disruption
by providing a robust alternative transport plane.”


A "hush-hush" UFO-shaped craft operating a shuttle from London City
Airport to the roof of O2?

--
gordon

Bruce[_2_] November 24th 09 12:59 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botched upgrade - Evening Standard
 
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:22:43 +0000, Bruce
wrote:

Posted without comment:

by Ross Lydall
24.11.09

Passengers using the Jubilee line face another six months of weekend
closures to allow a botched upgrade to be completed.

The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.

The line, the Tube's newest, has been disrupted more than 100 times in
two years, leaving maintenance firm Tube Lines at loggerheads with
Transport for London over its request for further closures.

Mayor Boris Johnson criticised Tube Lines when it became obvious it
would over-run its 31 December deadline, while the O2 arena at North
Greenwich — where spectators have faced disrupted journeys — branded
the firm “clowns”.

The improvements will allow peak trains to run every two minutes,
increasing capacity by up to 40 per cent. They will make the Jubilee
line the Underground's “workhorse”, carrying up to 800,000 passengers
a day as other lines are rebuilt.

Tube Lines' chief executive, Dean Finch, said: “Yes, the Jubilee line
is going to be late. But I don't think it's right that Tube Lines
should be judged just on that. We have got a tremendous record of
success over the last six or seven years.

"I live on the line. I know how painful it is when the Jubilee line is
closed. We need probably about six more weekend closures to get our
bit done, but we will have to have more closures to train the drivers
and get operators familiar with the system.”

The line will part-close every weekend until Christmas, when it will
shut for four days. It will also close for a weekend in January and
for four days at Easter. Tube Lines, which is also responsible for
maintaining and upgrading the Northern and Piccadilly lines, faces a
£10 million penalty for each month it works into next year.

Geoff Symonds, of the O2's owners, AEG Europe, said: “Any additional
Jubilee line closures are hugely frustrating for us and our customers.
All we can do is continue to work with TfL to minimise the disruption
by providing a robust alternative transport plane.”


For the rest of the article, go to:
http://tinyurl.com/y872kf7
or:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...hed-upgrade.do



Crossposted to uk.railway. (forgot!)

MIG November 24th 09 02:17 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botchedupgrade - Evening Standard
 
On 24 Nov, 13:22, Bruce wrote:

Tube Lines' chief executive, Dean Finch, said: “Yes, the Jubilee line
is going to be late. But I don't think it's right that Tube Lines
should be judged just on that. We have got a tremendous record of
success over the last six or seven years.


Like the proudly Tube Lines-badged escalator at Euston that lasted a
few days after taking several weeks to fix ...

[email protected] November 24th 09 02:34 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botched upgrade - Evening Standard
 
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:22:43 +0000
Bruce wrote:
The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.


That'll work well underground.

Tube Lines' chief executive, Dean Finch, said: “Yes, the Jubilee line
is going to be late. But I don't think it's right that Tube Lines
should be judged just on that. We have got a tremendous record of
success over the last six or seven years.


No , clearly unfair to judge Tubelines on their own work. Far fairer to
judge and blame someone totally unrelated. I know, lets just blame it on the
boogie!

for four days at Easter. Tube Lines, which is also responsible for
maintaining and upgrading the Northern and Piccadilly lines, faces a
£10 million penalty for each month it works into next year.


Hopefully they'll follow in the footsteps of Metromess and go bust.

B2003


MIG November 24th 09 02:43 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botchedupgrade - Evening Standard
 
On 24 Nov, 15:34, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:22:43 +0000

Bruce wrote:
The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.


That'll work well underground.

Tube Lines' chief executive, Dean Finch, said: “Yes, the Jubilee line
is going to be late. But I don't think it's right that Tube Lines
should be judged just on that. We have got a tremendous record of
success over the last six or seven years.


No , clearly unfair to judge Tubelines on their own work. Far fairer to
judge and blame someone totally unrelated. I know, lets just blame it on the
boogie!


I can't really understand why you aren't blaming it on Bob Crow.

[email protected] November 24th 09 03:07 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botched
 
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:43:08 -0800 (PST)
MIG wrote:
On 24 Nov, 15:34, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:22:43 +0000

Bruce wrote:
The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.


That'll work well underground.

Tube Lines' chief executive, Dean Finch, said: =93Yes, the Jubilee line
is going to be late. But I don't think it's right that Tube Lines
should be judged just on that. We have got a tremendous record of
success over the last six or seven years.


No , clearly unfair to judge Tubelines on their own work. Far fairer to
judge and blame someone totally unrelated. I know, lets just blame it on =

the
boogie!


I can't really understand why you aren't blaming it on Bob Crow.


Oh no doubt him and his trained chimps will threaten a strike as soon as
the upgrade is completed , spouting some guff about how much new working
conditions or whatever other ideas he picked up from watching Carry On At
Your Convenience for the 100th time.

B2003


Bruce[_2_] November 24th 09 04:03 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botched upgrade - Evening Standard
 
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:34:40 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:22:43 +0000
Bruce wrote:
The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.


That'll work well underground.



There's a major national research & development project in progress
whose aims are to do exactly that - to bring the benefits of GPS to
tunnels.

Mind you, look at what happened to the idea of bringing mobile phone
reception to the Underground ...


Paul Terry[_2_] November 24th 09 04:09 PM

Another six months of closures on Jubilee line to finish botched upgrade - Evening Standard
 
In message , writes

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:22:43 +0000
Bruce wrote:


The firm working on the line has admitted it needs at least 10 weekend
shutdowns next year to introduce a satellite navigation signalling
system.


That'll work well underground.


ROFL! That's a typical Standard error. They mean moving-block
signalling.
--
Paul Terry


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