"Robin May" wrote in message
.4...

What you write above is totally nonsensical, incoherent and
inconsistent. You argue that anti-war feeling wasn't strong because the
UK didn't grind to a halt as a result of the demonstration. You then
argue that there ways of expressing opinions other than demonstrating.
If that's the case then why on earth are you trying to say that anti-
war feeling wasn't strong on the basis of participation in a
demonstration?

0/10 for intelligence

The sort of response I guess I should expect! Because I don't agree with
your sentiments, my views are "totally nonsensical, incoherent and
inconsistent! and I get 0/10 for intelligence!
Typical of those who force their views on others through demonstrating
perhaps?

Robert Griffith

"Mait001" wrote in message
...
So what are you saying, you can't be an "ordinary person" if you
demonstrate?


No doubt some demonstrators are "ordinary" people but, I firmly believe,
the
vast majority of "ordinary" people do not demonstrate - ever.

Marc.

Hear hear. I agree totally with you! Quite frankly it is wishful thinking to
try to argue that the "anti-war" feeling was that strong. Given the total
population of the UK, I do not recall the country grinding to a halt in a
way it would have done so, had most of its adult population joined a
demonstration. There are other ways of expressing opinions to parading in
the streets.

Robert Griffith


Thanks, Robert.

Marc.

Hear hear. I agree totally with you! Quite frankly it is wishful
thinking to try to argue that the "anti-war" feeling was that
strong. Given the total population of the UK, I do not recall the
country grinding to a halt in a way it would have done so, had
most of its adult population joined a demonstration. There are
other ways of expressing opinions to parading in the streets.

What you write above is totally nonsensical, incoherent and
inconsistent. You argue that anti-war feeling wasn't strong because the
UK didn't grind to a halt as a result of the demonstration. You then
argue that there ways of expressing opinions other than demonstrating.
If that's the case then why on earth are you trying to say that anti-
war feeling wasn't strong on the basis of participation in a
demonstration?

0/10 for intelligence

--
message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Hello. I'm one of those "roaring fascists of the left wing".

Then and than are different words!


Allow me, if I may, to reply.

Robin, you seem to have some difficulty in accepting a consistency between 2
totally consistent and coherent statements:

1. Anti-war feeling is lower than it has been hyped-up to be.
2. There are other ways of making one's anti-war feelings known other an public
street demonstrations.

Marc.

"Robin May" wrote in message
. 1.4...

What you write above is totally nonsensical, incoherent and
inconsistent. You argue that anti-war feeling wasn't strong because the
UK didn't grind to a halt as a result of the demonstration. You then
argue that there ways of expressing opinions other than demonstrating.
If that's the case then why on earth are you trying to say that anti-
war feeling wasn't strong on the basis of participation in a
demonstration?

0/10 for intelligence

The sort of response I guess I should expect! Because I don't agree with
your sentiments, my views are "totally nonsensical, incoherent and
inconsistent! and I get 0/10 for intelligence!
Typical of those who force their views on others through demonstrating
perhaps?

Robert Griffith


Quite, Robert. You'd better get used to that sort of response for having the
temerity to disagree with Robin!

Marc.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
"rob" wrote in :


No they really were totally nonsensical, incoherent and inconsistent for
the reasons given.

You are also getting dangerously close to Godwin.

As I scored 0/10 for intelligence by your standard perhaps you could explain
the "Godwin" reference.

Yet again your response reveals the arrogance of those who force their views
on others through demonstrations of this kind.

Robert Griffith

"Mait001" wrote in message
...


Quite, Robert. You'd better get used to that sort of response for having
the
temerity to disagree with Robin!

Marc.


My pleasure Marc, I had to intervene because I find the arrogant assertions,
that almost everyone in this country support this cause, to be so far from
the truth!

Robert

"rob" wrote the following in:



"Robin May" wrote in message
.4...

What you write above is totally nonsensical, incoherent and
inconsistent. You argue that anti-war feeling wasn't strong
because the UK didn't grind to a halt as a result of the
demonstration. You then argue that there ways of expressing
opinions other than demonstrating. If that's the case then why on
earth are you trying to say that anti- war feeling wasn't strong
on the basis of participation in a demonstration?

0/10 for intelligence

The sort of response I guess I should expect! Because I don't
agree with your sentiments, my views are "totally nonsensical,
incoherent and inconsistent! and I get 0/10 for intelligence!

Not because you don't agree with me, but because what you said didn't
make sense. You said:

1. That anti-war feeling isn't very strong because the number of people
who demonstrated was a small percentage of the total population.

2. That there are ways of expressing opinion other than demonstrating.

So in part 1 you only count those who demonstrated against the war as
being anti-war. Then in part 2 you claimed there were other ways of
expressing an anti-war opinion. This doesn't make sense: you claim
there are other ways of expressing an opinion, and yet in part 1 you
totally ignore these ways and only consider demonstration. Does this
make sense? No.

Typical of those who force their views on others through
demonstrating perhaps?

I've never attended a demonstration.

--
message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Hello. I'm one of those "roaring fascists of the left wing".

Then and than are different words!

(Mait001) wrote the following in:


The sort of response I guess I should expect! Because I don't
agree with your sentiments, my views are "totally nonsensical,
incoherent and inconsistent! and I get 0/10 for intelligence!
Typical of those who force their views on others through
demonstrating perhaps?

Robert Griffith


Quite, Robert. You'd better get used to that sort of response for
having the temerity to disagree with Robin!

It wasn't because he'd disagreed with me. It was because what he said
genuinely didn't make sense. It contradicted itself and made no
internal sense.

--
message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Hello. I'm one of those "roaring fascists of the left wing".

Then and than are different words!

(Mait001) wrote the following in:


Allow me, if I may, to reply.

Robin, you seem to have some difficulty in accepting a consistency
between 2 totally consistent and coherent statements:

You have misunderstood the post to which I was replying.

1. Anti-war feeling is lower than it has been hyped-up to be.

Robert Griffith didn't say this. What he said was that he didn't
believe anti-war feeling was very strong. He said the reason he didn't
believe this was because the demonstration was only a million strong
and the population of the UK who could demonstrate was much bigger than
that.

2. There are other ways of making one's anti-war feelings known
other an public street demonstrations.

But he himself only recognised anti-war feeling when it was expressed
at a public street demonstration.

--
message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Hello. I'm one of those "roaring fascists of the left wing".

Then and than are different words!

kedron wrote:

I'd hazard a guess that, of the 55 million or so, only about 1 to 3
million have EVER been on any demonstration of any sort.

But that's just a guess. It's precisely the kind of guess I suggested
you were making. Between poll tax, country alliance, cnd, anti-war,
pensioners, petrol geeks etc etc, I'd say your guess is wrong.

I'd say you're misjudging your fellow citizens.

What do the rest of you think?

I've been around for 43 years now and know no-one who has ever been on any
kind of mass demonstration. Most people I know really don't care *that*
much about the sort of things that demonstrations tend to cover - they, like
me, are just getting on with their own lives and doing the best they can to
create a secure future for their families.

Sure there are things I might feel are wrong or with which I might disagree
(in my case this would, for example, include the recent war, the Bush visit
and the fox hunting ban) but I certainly wouldn't go on a demonstration
about them - I have better things to do with my time