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Michael R N Dolbear January 8th 10 12:46 PM

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(Michael R Dolbear) wrote:

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(Michael R Dolbear) wrote:


Wait 'til we get (via the Oyster HelpLine) to the cost of 0845
numbers (cheaper on a landline, more expensive on most mobiles)


http://www.saynoto0870.com suggests
ring 020 7222 5600 (-main TfL Switchboard - ask for Oystercard
Ticketing & Refunds -Available Monday-Friday 8am to 6pm only)


Is 020 7227 7886 not still working?


I think that's the one that Saynoto0870 says just gives a recorded
message telling us to call 0845 330 9876


How recently? I've used it in the past.


http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/f...num=1229787187
== quote
New Oyster Helpline! (TfL)
Reply #10 - Dec 28th, 2009, 9:05am Hi there!

I was trying to get through to the Oyster helpline the other day and
found out that the number provided here (02072277891 - a
non-geographical alternative to 08453309881) now just redirects to a
message telling me to "please put down the handset and call
08453309876". I also tried 02072221234, but it's just an automatic
reply telling me the new number. Does anybody have a non-geographical
alternative to 08453309876
== end quote

--
Mike D

Edgemaster January 8th 10 03:00 PM

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On 8 Jan, 01:16, wrote:
In article
,



(Matthew Dickinson) wrote:
On 7 Jan, 18:17, Matthew Dickinson
wrote:
On 7 Jan, 17:21, Tangent wrote:


On Jan 5, 2:37*pm, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-


wrote:
Paul Terry wrote:


But with OEPs rapidly becoming available on automatic ticket
machines across London, it would probably be necessary to
establish that the ticket machine was broken and there was no
other one available nearby.


Yes but as stated elsewhere on the thread there are a number of
stations and operators who don't have theOysterpads on the
machines - National Express doesn't have them at Forest Gate or
Stratford; Barking (which operator?) didn't have them before
Christmas.


In adddition, as Rupert says below, Southeastern certainly don't
have an OEP option on the machines which have now been enabled for
Oyster.


Neither do First Capital Connect, London Midland or London Underground
(on their ex-Silverlink machines)


And neither do London Overground.


However Southern machines do. (I think these seem to be the only
National Rail machines enabled so far)


I thought this was only promised for January 13th?

--
Colin Rosenstiel


My local Southern station (Carshalton) has had an Oyster pad on its
machine from sometime before christmas. (And a note above saying
Oyster PAYG not valid for travel until Jan 2nd) (AFAICR)

[email protected] January 8th 10 07:29 PM

Oyster Extension Permits (OEPs)
 
In article 01ca9068$ead7f320$65cb403e@default, (Michael R
N Dolbear) wrote:

wrote

(Michael R Dolbear) wrote:

wrote

(Michael R Dolbear) wrote:

Wait 'til we get (via the Oyster HelpLine) to the cost of 0845
numbers (cheaper on a landline, more expensive on most mobiles)

http://www.saynoto0870.com suggests
ring 020 7222 5600 (-main TfL Switchboard - ask for Oystercard
Ticketing & Refunds -Available Monday-Friday 8am to 6pm only)

Is 020 7227 7886 not still working?

I think that's the one that Saynoto0870 says just gives a recorded
message telling us to call 0845 330 9876


How recently? I've used it in the past.


http://www.saynoto0870.com/cgi-bin/f...num=1229787187
== quote
New Oyster Helpline! (TfL)
Reply #10 - Dec 28th, 2009, 9:05am Hi there!

I was trying to get through to the Oyster helpline the other day and
found out that the number provided here (02072277891 - a
non-geographical alternative to 08453309881) now just redirects to a
message telling me to "please put down the handset and call
08453309876". I also tried 02072221234, but it's just an automatic
reply telling me the new number. Does anybody have a
non-geographical
alternative to 08453309876
== end quote


Oh poo! How annoying.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Richard January 9th 10 10:39 AM

Oyster Extension Permits (OEPs)
 
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:32:22 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:22:05 -0600,

wrote:

You cannot register Gold Cards or Network Cards onto Oyster cards


Another stupidity then.


It is bloody silly. I don't see why the system can't cope with just
giving a weekend discount on the Network Card cap.


Just another nail in the coffin - we know the railways don't like the
Network Railcard, but I'm surprised to see TfL go along with it.

Richard.

[email protected][_2_] January 10th 10 09:01 AM

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On 3 Jan, 20:02, Matthew Dickinson
wrote:
On 3 Jan, 19:09, Jonathan Harris wrote:





On 3 Jan, 17:40, "Paul Scott" wrote:


Chris wrote:
On 3 Jan, 15:52, trainmanUK wrote:
The whole reason for these OEP is that many NR stations do
not have barriers so if you get to your destination and see no one
there you can just walk off the station with out paying (Touching
out)


Not so....all in-zone NR stations are or will have Oyster validators -
and it is your responsibility toi touch out. Barriers or no.


ISTM you've missed the very point of the previous post. He explained exactly
why OEPs are needed. At unbarriered stations there is nothing whatsoever to
stop a passenger who entered elsewhere with a season travelcard ignoring a
validator. *The TOCs aren't prepared to take that obvious revenue risk - but
TfL do already, and are prepared to accept it.


Paul S


But ISTR that the only ungated stations on the underground are Mill
Hill East (because they don't fit) and Roding Valley (because the
number of passengers doesn't justify it). *If TfL want to leave
barriers open somewhere to save on staff costs and then be subject to
revenue risk, that's a different matter. I appreciate that there are
now plenty of LO stations wthout barriers and various 'open'
interfaces with National Rail but the number is small relative to the
number of NR stations that are ungated.


Jonathan


Finsbury Park is not gated, and one entrance at *West Harrow and
Finchley Central aren't either.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Nor West Ruisilip if you walk down to Chiltern platforms and out to
car park
Sudbury town north gate appears to be almost never closed ( although
i never travel in peaks so cannot confirm peak situation)

HTH Phil

[email protected] January 13th 10 08:02 PM

Oyster Extension Permits (OEPs)
 
In article ,
() wrote:

I used to use the District line from St James's Park to East Putney
at £1.60 (now £1.80) using Oyster in preference to Vauxhall to
Putney at £1.70 cash but now my Senior Railcard is loaded onto my
oyster Card I can take SWT from Waterloo to Putney for just £1.15
(and just £0.85 from Vauxhall).


I did exactly that last week and it went very well, topping up at a ticket
stop near Putney station too.

Tonight the same journey was another matter. At neither Vauxhall nor
Putney was the only wide gate working. At Vauxhall it was open but
wouldn't accept any Oyster cards so I couldn't touch in. The staff member,
when he appeared, touched my card in at an adjacent narrow gate for me
while I walked through.

At Putney the gate was shut and wouldn't accept Oyster cards either. The
member of staff told me to go through the gate at the other end (next to
him) of the line which was pretty busy (snow disrupted timetable - I was
on the 18:49 Hounslow from Vauxhall which actually left there at 19:24). I
kept telling him, three or four times, that gate wasn't wide enough to
take my bike but he kept trying to insist. Eventually he went round on the
outside, told me to touch out on the adjacent gate and opened the wide
gate.

Not impressive. The wide gates are much newer than the rest too.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Neil Williams January 13th 10 08:29 PM

Oyster Extension Permits (OEPs)
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:02:59 -0600,
wrote:

Not impressive. The wide gates are much newer than the rest too.


And feel cheap and nasty compared with the older air-powered "normal"
gates.

Neil

--
Neil Williams
Put my first name before the at to reply.

asdf January 15th 10 07:09 AM

Oyster Extension Permits (OEPs)
 
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:29:19 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:02:59 -0600,
wrote:

Not impressive. The wide gates are much newer than the rest too.


And feel cheap and nasty compared with the older air-powered "normal"
gates.


The 3rd-generation gates (which all of the wide gates are) are a
bugbear of mine. They seem far slower and more prone to failure than
the older ones. Plus, with paper tickets, they seem have an issue
where the ticket sometimes gets stuck in the mechanism, and the thing
that's meant to write the last-used gateline onto part of the
magstripe ends up scribbling all over it, making the ticket useless in
ticket gates thereafter. (When this happens the ticket churns around
in the mechanism for a while, is eventually spat out with an 08 error,
then all future attempts to use it anywhere receive an 09 error.)


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