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Provided by Father Christmas (it was on my stocking list), this is an
amazing compilation of railway layouts past and present (and some future) around London. I am going through the areas I know to pick up the inevitable errors but it still seems an heroic effort to me. I'd never heard of Commercial Dock station : anyone know where it was? MaxB |
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, MaxB writes I'd never heard of Commercial Dock station : anyone know where it was? It was on the London to Greenwich line, about half a mile west of Surrey Canal junction. The name refers to the Surrey Commercial Docks (which were not particularly close!). There seems to be very little information about the station, and I have no idea of dates, but the short-lived Southwark Station (1902-1915) was built on or very close to the site. -- Paul Terry |
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In message , Paul Terry
writes but the short-lived Southwark Station (1902-1915) was built on or very close to the site. Sorry, I meant "Southwark Park" Station. -- Paul Terry |
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![]() "Paul Terry" wrote in message ... In message , MaxB writes I'd never heard of Commercial Dock station : anyone know where it was? It was on the London to Greenwich line, about half a mile west of Surrey Canal junction. The name refers to the Surrey Commercial Docks (which were not particularly close!). There seems to be very little information about the station, and I have no idea of dates, but the short-lived Southwark Station (1902-1915) was built on or very close to the site. The relative position of the station (1856-66) is clearly shown on two of the maps, the enlargement on P52 being the better one. I can only assume the OP is wondering where it sits on a streetmap, but when you look at how little of Southwark Park remains visible from a passing train (located just to the west) it is quite possible Commercial Dock was completely obliterated much earlier. The site isn't noted in the current Quail track plans, although Southwark Park is shown. Paul S |
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"Paul Scott" wrote in message
... "Paul Terry" wrote in message ... In message , MaxB writes I'd never heard of Commercial Dock station : anyone know where it was? It was on the London to Greenwich line, about half a mile west of Surrey Canal junction. The name refers to the Surrey Commercial Docks (which were not particularly close!). There seems to be very little information about the station, and I have no idea of dates, but the short-lived Southwark Station (1902-1915) was built on or very close to the site. The relative position of the station (1856-66) is clearly shown on two of the maps, the enlargement on P52 being the better one. I can only assume the OP is wondering where it sits on a streetmap, but when you look at how little of Southwark Park remains visible from a passing train (located just to the west) it is quite possible Commercial Dock was completely obliterated much earlier. The site isn't noted in the current Quail track plans, although Southwark Park is shown. Paul S Actually I knew where it was (from the map!) but it was intended as a quiz for those without the Atlas!!! Incidentally Southern Region Chronology and Record shows it as Commercial DockS. Thanks anyway to all concerned. MaxB |
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Batman55 wrote:
"Paul Scott" wrote in message ... The relative position of the station (1856-66) is clearly shown on two of the maps, the enlargement on P52 being the better one. I can only assume the OP is wondering where it sits on a streetmap... Actually I knew where it was (from the map!) but it was intended as a quiz for those without the Atlas!!! Ah - well that backfired a bit, I guess there are so many posters here who will have that or the previous version of the Atlas - or both :-) Paul S |
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:04:33 -0000, "Paul Scott"
wrote: Batman55 wrote: "Paul Scott" wrote in message ... The relative position of the station (1856-66) is clearly shown on two of the maps, the enlargement on P52 being the better one. I can only assume the OP is wondering where it sits on a streetmap... Actually I knew where it was (from the map!) but it was intended as a quiz for those without the Atlas!!! Ah - well that backfired a bit, I guess there are so many posters here who will have that or the previous version of the Atlas - or both :-) Paul S it would be use full to know the publisher and author, so we would know which atlas, you were talking about, I am sure there aerie many such, my favorite is jowetts. |
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martyn dawe wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:04:33 -0000, "Paul Scott" wrote: Batman55 wrote: "Paul Scott" wrote in message ... The relative position of the station (1856-66) is clearly shown on two of the maps, the enlargement on P52 being the better one. I can only assume the OP is wondering where it sits on a streetmap... Actually I knew where it was (from the map!) but it was intended as a quiz for those without the Atlas!!! Ah - well that backfired a bit, I guess there are so many posters here who will have that or the previous version of the Atlas - or both :-) Paul S it would be use full to know the publisher and author, so we would know which atlas, you were talking about, I am sure there aerie many such, my favorite is jowetts. London Railway Atlas (as subject) - Joe Brown, Ian Allan. But it was only assumed by the OP's context. Paul |
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Paul Scott wrote on 12 January 2010
11:39:18 ... martyn dawe wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:04:33 -0000, "Paul Scott" wrote: Batman55 wrote: "Paul Scott" wrote in message ... The relative position of the station (1856-66) is clearly shown on two of the maps, the enlargement on P52 being the better one. I can only assume the OP is wondering where it sits on a streetmap... Actually I knew where it was (from the map!) but it was intended as a quiz for those without the Atlas!!! Ah - well that backfired a bit, I guess there are so many posters here who will have that or the previous version of the Atlas - or both :-) it would be use full to know the publisher and author, so we would know which atlas, you were talking about, I am sure there aerie many such, my favorite is jowetts. London Railway Atlas (as subject) - Joe Brown, Ian Allan. But it was only assumed by the OP's context. I've got the original edition of 2006, ISBN 0711031371 Is the new edition (2009, ISBN 0711033978) very different? Is it worth buying if you've already got the first edition? -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) |
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![]() "Richard J." wrote in message om... Paul Scott wrote on 12 January 2010 London Railway Atlas (as subject) - Joe Brown, Ian Allan. But it was only assumed by the OP's context. I've got the original edition of 2006, ISBN 0711031371 Is the new edition (2009, ISBN 0711033978) very different? Is it worth buying if you've already got the first edition? I think the main advantage is that the full A4 size allows it to show individual single tracks throughout the book, rather than thick lines for double tracks, so crossovers and the like are much more visible. Many of the notes on the maps have also been expanded, but as far as I can see the main map pages run in the same sequence. There are 6 pages of additional insets at the end, and major rail stations now show internal layouts rather than just being 'big red blocks' Certainly a much clearer quality of mapping, and there's some extra information in there. I don't think many would be disappointed with the new version. Paul S |
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