Hackney Gazette reports that the ELL is opening on 23 May, two months
ahead of schedule.

Also that old tram sheds in Clapton are doomed, possibly.

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/cont...s/story.aspx?b
rand=HKYGOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24 &tCategory=newshkyg&ite
mid=WeED05%20Jan%202010%2011%3A38%3A06%3A463



E.

eastender wrote:
Hackney Gazette reports that the ELL is opening on 23 May, two months
ahead of schedule.

23rd May is the next NR timetable change date, and that has been expected
for a while now, as in railway terms that is 'summer 2010'.

But according to the current NR timetable they (ie NR) were expecting the
new service to start in April anyway (but probably only on the ELL itself -
because to run to Croydon and Crystal Palace requires the existing SN
timetable to be seriously changed.)

Previous posts have suggested local passengers will be involved in trials of
the new line beforehand as well...

Paul S

On Jan 7, 12:03*pm, eastender wrote:
Hackney Gazette reports that the ELL is opening on 23 May, two months
ahead of schedule.

Also that old tram sheds in Clapton are doomed, possibly.

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/cont.../news/story.as...
rand=HKYGOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24 &tCategory=newshkyg&ite
mid=WeED05%20Jan%202010%2011%3A38%3A06%3A463

E.

Maybe this link could be sent to tinyurl.com ?

CJB wrote:

Maybe this link could be sent to tinyurl.com ?

If you put a long link inside angle brackets, most newsreaders will leave it
intact and you avoid the security issues with URL obfuscators.

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/content/hackney/gazette/news/story.aspx?brand=HKYGOnline&category=news&tBrand=n orthlondon24&tCategory=newshkyg&itemid=WeED05%20Ja n%202010%2011%3A38%3A06%3A463

"Paul Corfield" wrote in message
...

One thing I would like to understand is whether it will be possible for
TfL to run any sort of "ghost" timetable south of New Cross Gate on NR
metals prior to 23/5/10? Given that a major recast of Southern
services is required there must be a risk that LOROL "debug" the new bit
north of New Cross Gate but then find it a struggle to get to grips with
the service carrying on to Crystal Palace and West Croydon.

News just in Paul. A supplementary track access has been agreed, allowing
for 15 slots per day in each direction from 17th Jan until the timetable
change date:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...ion-letter.pdf

I read elsewhere that the signalled connections to NR were meant to come
into full time use last weekend, but the up connection signals at least were
bagged over today .

Still, should see some 378s out and about through Sydenham pretty soon
now...

Paul S

On 19.01.10 22:38, Paul Scott wrote:
"Paul wrote in message
...

One thing I would like to understand is whether it will be possible for
TfL to run any sort of "ghost" timetable south of New Cross Gate on NR
metals prior to 23/5/10? Given that a major recast of Southern
services is required there must be a risk that LOROL "debug" the new bit
north of New Cross Gate but then find it a struggle to get to grips with
the service carrying on to Crystal Palace and West Croydon.

News just in Paul. A supplementary track access has been agreed, allowing
for 15 slots per day in each direction from 17th Jan until the timetable
change date:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...ion-letter.pdf

I read elsewhere that the signalled connections to NR were meant to come
into full time use last weekend, but the up connection signals at least were
bagged over today .

Still, should see some 378s out and about through Sydenham pretty soon
now...

Paul S


I would imagine that there are plenty to go around if building work is
finished and approved ahead of schedule?

wrote in message
...
On 19.01.10 22:38, Paul Scott wrote:
"Paul wrote in message
...

One thing I would like to understand is whether it will be possible for
TfL to run any sort of "ghost" timetable south of New Cross Gate on NR
metals prior to 23/5/10? Given that a major recast of Southern
services is required there must be a risk that LOROL "debug" the new bit
north of New Cross Gate but then find it a struggle to get to grips with
the service carrying on to Crystal Palace and West Croydon.

News just in Paul. A supplementary track access has been agreed, allowing
for 15 slots per day in each direction from 17th Jan until the timetable
change date:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...ion-letter.pdf

I read elsewhere that the signalled connections to NR were meant to come
into full time use last weekend, but the up connection signals at least
were
bagged over today .

Still, should see some 378s out and about through Sydenham pretty soon
now...

I would imagine that there are plenty to go around if building work is
finished and approved ahead of schedule?

The 378s? Somewhat behind schedule I think, although there are plenty of the
ELL variety available now. 10 or more units sitting at NXG depot as of
yesterday. But 378/0s for the NLL/DC lines seem to have ceased being
delivered for the moment.

Paul

On 20.01.10 9:28, Paul Scott wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 19.01.10 22:38, Paul Scott wrote:
"Paul wrote in message
...

One thing I would like to understand is whether it will be possible for
TfL to run any sort of "ghost" timetable south of New Cross Gate on NR
metals prior to 23/5/10? Given that a major recast of Southern
services is required there must be a risk that LOROL "debug" the new bit
north of New Cross Gate but then find it a struggle to get to grips with
the service carrying on to Crystal Palace and West Croydon.

News just in Paul. A supplementary track access has been agreed, allowing
for 15 slots per day in each direction from 17th Jan until the timetable
change date:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...ion-letter.pdf

I read elsewhere that the signalled connections to NR were meant to come
into full time use last weekend, but the up connection signals at least
were
bagged over today .

Still, should see some 378s out and about through Sydenham pretty soon
now...

I would imagine that there are plenty to go around if building work is
finished and approved ahead of schedule?

The 378s? Somewhat behind schedule I think, although there are plenty of the
ELL variety available now. 10 or more units sitting at NXG depot as of
yesterday. But 378/0s for the NLL/DC lines seem to have ceased being
delivered for the moment.

Paul


My mistake -- I meant to ask if contractors and their crews would
receive bonusses for finishing work ahead of schedule.

"eastender" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Paul Scott" wrote:

But according to the current NR timetable they (ie NR) were expecting the
new service to start in April anyway (but probably only on the ELL
tself -
because to run to Croydon and Crystal Palace requires the existing SN
timetable to be seriously changed.)

Indeed - looks like it's been handed over now and services could well
run from 4 April.

See...

See also other recent posts in this thread...

Paul S

On Jan 20, 9:28*am, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
wrote in message

...





On 19.01.10 22:38, Paul Scott wrote:
"Paul *wrote in message
. ..

One thing I would like to understand is whether it will be possible for
TfL to run any sort of "ghost" timetable south of New Cross Gate on NR
metals prior to 23/5/10? * Given that a major recast of Southern
services is required there must be a risk that LOROL "debug" the new bit
north of New Cross Gate but then find it a struggle to get to grips with
the service carrying on to Crystal Palace and West Croydon.

News just in Paul. A supplementary track access has been agreed, allowing
for 15 slots per day in each direction from 17th Jan until the timetable
change date:

http://www.rail-reg.gov.uk/upload/pd...ion-letter.pdf

I read elsewhere that the signalled connections to NR were meant to come
into full time use last weekend, but the up connection signals at least
were
bagged over today .

Still, should see some 378s out and about through Sydenham pretty soon
now...

I would imagine that there are plenty to go around if building work is
finished and approved ahead of schedule?

The 378s? Somewhat behind schedule I think, although there are plenty of the
ELL variety available now. 10 or more units sitting at NXG depot as of
yesterday. *But 378/0s for the NLL/DC lines seem to have ceased being
delivered for the moment.


The deliveries of the 378/1s for the ELL are pretty much on schedule
(I think units 136-152 have already arrived, just leaving 132-135 and
153 still to come). The rate of deliveries of the 378/0s may have
slowed down, but there have been at least two arriving at Willesden
this month (006 and 003).