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Paul January 18th 10 11:08 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
From the Tfl website at lunchtime today:-


Northern Line

Minor delays are occurring between Camden Town and Kennington via
Charing Cross due to a fox on the track at Warren Street.

How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any
more unusual excuses for delays?

[email protected] January 18th 10 11:22 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Paul wrote:
How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any
more unusual excuses for delays?


Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing over
and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one more dead one
would be a benefit to everyone.

B2003


martin January 18th 10 11:30 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Jan 18, 12:08*pm, Paul wrote:
From the Tfl website at lunchtime today:-

Northern Line

Minor delays are occurring between Camden Town and Kennington via
Charing Cross due to a fox on the track at Warren Street.

How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any
more unusual excuses for delays?


My favourite excuse for a delay was in the early hours of New Year's
Day 2007 at Finsbury Park.
"Piccadilly Line services are currently suspended eastbound due to a
fight in progress at Caledonian Road. The police are in attendance,
and once they're satisfied that it's reached its conclusion, services
will resume, but for now services are suspended and we hope you
realise that this fight is beyond our control."

Bruce[_2_] January 18th 10 11:44 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:22:26 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Paul wrote:
How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any
more unusual excuses for delays?


Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing over
and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one more dead one
would be a benefit to everyone.



If running over the fox displaced a conductor rail, or removed (or
damaged) the collector shoes or tripcocks on the train, you would be
apoplectic with rage.

And we see enough of that already, thank you. ;-)


Adrian January 18th 10 11:47 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
d gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any more
unusual excuses for delays?


Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing over
and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one more dead
one would be a benefit to everyone.


Because if a train emerged from a tunnel into a station with blood &
mince splattered all over the front, there might be one or two...
reactions... amongst the passengers waiting on the platform.

Personal favourite unusual excuse was sat on a Met line train just
outside Baker St.

"We apologise for the delay. This is due to trains on the line in the
vicinity of Baker St station."

Umm, where would you rather they were, if not "on the line"?

Then, of course, there's the immortal "due to a dog on the Barking line".
I swear I've actually heard that one, whilst waiting at Farringdon, but I
suspect the announcer did it deliberately. He'd probably been waiting
years for an excuse.

Batman55 January 18th 10 11:49 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:08:02 -0800 (PST)
Paul wrote:
How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any
more unusual excuses for delays?


Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing over
and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one more dead one
would be a benefit to everyone.

B2003


Hopefully it was one of those screaming outside my window at 2 a.m. this
morning!

MaxB



[email protected] January 18th 10 11:56 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:44:34 +0000
Bruce wrote:
Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing over
and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one more dead one
would be a benefit to everyone.



If running over the fox displaced a conductor rail, or removed (or
damaged) the collector shoes or tripcocks on the train, you would be
apoplectic with rage.


Foxes are generally only the size of a collie. I can't see why one would
damage a train or track when suiciders seem to be decapitated quite nicely
without problems.

And we see enough of that already, thank you. ;-)


Perhaps if LU could run something approaching a decent service on the
piccadilly line I wouldn't. Luckily I don't have to suffer it most days but I
heard on the travel news earlier that holborn station was closed for a few
hours in the rush hour and there were delays on the Raynors lane branch yet
again because of yet another signal failure. And this is the most expensive
metro system in the world to travel on. Its a sad farce.

B2003


[email protected] January 18th 10 12:01 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On 18 Jan 2010 12:47:20 GMT
Adrian wrote:
gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any more
unusual excuses for delays?


Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing over
and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one more dead
one would be a benefit to everyone.


Because if a train emerged from a tunnel into a station with blood &
mince splattered all over the front, there might be one or two...
reactions... amongst the passengers waiting on the platform.


Yes , I suppose you have a point there. No doubt some delicate little flowers
would come over all faint and there'd be even more delays.

OTOH it might make a nice little mascot for a train , in the same way that
some bin lorries have a miserable looking furry toy tied to the front like a
kind of sadistic torture experiment.

B2003



Recliner[_2_] January 18th 10 12:09 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
"Adrian" wrote in message

d gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track? Any
more unusual excuses for delays?


Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing
over and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one
more dead one would be a benefit to everyone.


Because if a train emerged from a tunnel into a station with blood &
mince splattered all over the front, there might be one or two...
reactions... amongst the passengers waiting on the platform.


So *that's* why LU trains have red front-ends!



Basil Jet January 18th 10 12:33 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
martin wrote:

"Piccadilly Line services are currently suspended eastbound due to a
fight in progress at Caledonian Road. The police are in attendance,
and once they're satisfied that it's reached its conclusion, services
will resume, but for now services are suspended and we hope you
realise that this fight is beyond our control."


Was that pre-recorded? ;-)

--
We are the Strasbourg. Referendum is futile.



DW downunder January 18th 10 01:28 PM

Fox Under A Train
 

"Paul" wrote in message
...
From the Tfl website at lunchtime today:-


Northern Line

Minor delays are occurring between Camden Town and Kennington via
Charing Cross due to a fox on the track at Warren Street.

How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track?


Wouldn't a tube line look just like a bolt hole to a fox? And there are
surface sections of the Northern Line which looked verdant, green and nice
foxy country to me.



Any
more unusual excuses for delays?


With several days around 42C down here, reminds me that not that long ago,
train services in Perth were often disrupted in summer due to "twisted" or
"distorted" rails. A fellow vollie at a community care organisation here
suffers asthma (he's 70). The heat doesn't treat him kindly at all. His
brother in Leeds joked about swapping weather.

Would be happy to send some excess warmth up your way, if only we had the
technology.

DW downunder



[email protected] January 18th 10 02:34 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:28:17 +0800
"DW downunder" noname wrote:
With several days around 42C down here, reminds me that not that long ago,
train services in Perth were often disrupted in summer due to "twisted" or
"distorted" rails. A fellow vollie at a community care organisation here
suffers asthma (he's 70). The heat doesn't treat him kindly at all. His
brother in Leeds joked about swapping weather.


Don't people consider the heat before they emigrate to australia?

B2003



Bruce[_2_] January 18th 10 02:49 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:56:18 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:44:34 +0000
Bruce wrote:
Or more to the point , why did it matter? Just run the bloody thing over
and collect it at the end of the day. Its just vermin , one more dead one
would be a benefit to everyone.



If running over the fox displaced a conductor rail, or removed (or
damaged) the collector shoes or tripcocks on the train, you would be
apoplectic with rage.


Foxes are generally only the size of a collie. I can't see why one would
damage a train or track when suiciders seem to be decapitated quite nicely
without problems.



There's an awful lot that you "cannot see", so we'll just add that one
to the (very long) list, shall we?


Bruce[_2_] January 18th 10 03:36 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:34:18 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:28:17 +0800
"DW downunder" noname wrote:
With several days around 42C down here, reminds me that not that long ago,
train services in Perth were often disrupted in summer due to "twisted" or
"distorted" rails. A fellow vollie at a community care organisation here
suffers asthma (he's 70). The heat doesn't treat him kindly at all. His
brother in Leeds joked about swapping weather.


Don't people consider the heat before they emigrate to australia?



They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)



[email protected] January 18th 10 03:49 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:49:35 +0000
Bruce wrote:
There's an awful lot that you "cannot see", so we'll just add that one
to the (very long) list, shall we?


You going to fill us in on the insider info you apparently have or are you
just going to settle for blowing raspberries instead?

B2003


[email protected] January 18th 10 03:55 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.

B2003


Bruce[_2_] January 18th 10 03:56 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:49:42 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:49:35 +0000
Bruce wrote:
There's an awful lot that you "cannot see", so we'll just add that one
to the (very long) list, shall we?


You going to fill us in on the insider info you apparently have or are you
just going to settle for blowing raspberries instead?



Anyone could compile such a long list based on your serial ignorance
posted on Usenet. The trouble is, looking up your litany of moaning
would tax the patience of anyone with more than moderate intelligence,
and bore them to death.


Bruce[_2_] January 18th 10 04:00 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.



If London is so unattractive to Australians ...

.... why are so many of them over here?


[email protected] January 18th 10 04:16 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:00:53 +0000
Bruce wrote:
Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.



If London is so unattractive to Australians ...

.... why are so many of them over here?


How should I know, go ask one of them. I never understood the appeal of moving
10,000 miles from friends and family. Maybe they don't have either.

B2003


Bruce[_2_] January 18th 10 04:46 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:16:10 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:00:53 +0000
Bruce wrote:
Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.



If London is so unattractive to Australians ...

.... why are so many of them over here?


How should I know, go ask one of them. I never understood the appeal of moving
10,000 miles from friends and family. Maybe they don't have either.



I have worked with many Aussies and Kiwis over the years and they all
love London, especially the Tube that seems to distress you so much.


Eric[_3_] January 18th 10 06:21 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On 2010-01-18, d wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.

B2003


It's not what you complain about, it's how you do it (and to whom).

As for bad train services, I have lived, worked, and commuted in and
near both Sydney and London and, if you take a long-term view, there's
not much difference in the number of things that go wrong or in the
technical and human causes of them. And a Australian commuter has no
more power to get problems sorted out than you do.

Eric

Richard J.[_3_] January 18th 10 06:53 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
d wrote on 18 January 2010 16:55:35 ...
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.


Some comments on the London Tube on a TripAdvisor thread last month:
"The most efficient transport system I've had anything to do with"
"not one delay, not one closure ever.........so I am in awe of the tube !"

- both from Aussies!

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

MIG January 18th 10 08:27 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On 18 Jan, 19:53, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 18 January 2010 16:55:35 ...

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!


You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.


Some comments on the London Tube on a TripAdvisor thread last month:
"The most efficient transport system I've had anything to do with"
"not one delay, not one closure ever.........so I am in awe of the tube !"

* * - both from Aussies!


That would count for something if there were never any delays or
closures.

In this case, it just makes them an unreliable witness. Best not to
put them on the stand.

Richard J.[_3_] January 18th 10 10:39 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
MIG wrote on 18 January 2010 21:27:23 ...
On 18 Jan, 19:53, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 18 January 2010 16:55:35 ...

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!
You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.


Some comments on the London Tube on a TripAdvisor thread last month:
"The most efficient transport system I've had anything to do with"
"not one delay, not one closure ever.........so I am in awe of the tube !"

- both from Aussies!


That would count for something if there were never any delays or
closures.

In this case, it just makes them an unreliable witness. Best not to
put them on the stand.


Unreliable? Why? It's their opinion based on probably more journeys than
Boltar manages to do, and since he only travels by tube in inclement
weather when both road and rail performance will be worse than average,
it's his evidence that is unreliable.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

DW downunder January 19th 10 12:43 AM

Fox Under A Train
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!

You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.



If London is so unattractive to Australians ...

... why are so many of them over here?


To make space for all the Kiwis and boat people who keep flooding into Oz,
of course G.

You'll notice that almost all in GB are Euro-Australians, and for many, GB =
the nation of family origins. So, it's natural to seek out one's roots if
one lives in an environment with so many references to "the Old Country".

For example, I was born in Luton. My late father-in-law came from South
Shields. My late father was a Brummie. My mother from Islington. My wife has
a maternal ancestor from the East End. And so on it goes.

So, Earl's Court was (is) the first stage of an Ozzie's "pilgrimage" to
'honour' their ancestors.

DW down under


[email protected] January 19th 10 08:34 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:46:03 +0000
Bruce wrote:
I have worked with many Aussies and Kiwis over the years and they all
love London, especially the Tube that seems to distress you so much.


Like most temporary workers, they probably never venture more than 5 miles
from the city centre unless its go to to the airport. The tube service in
central london is usually fine. Its out in the sticks where the problems occur
and thats where most commuters live. Unless its the circle line of course.

B2003


[email protected] January 19th 10 08:35 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:21:43 +0000
Eric wrote:
It's not what you complain about, it's how you do it (and to whom).


Try complaining to LU and see where it gets you.

B2003



[email protected] January 19th 10 08:39 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:39:36 GMT
"Richard J." wrote:
Unreliable? Why? It's their opinion based on probably more journeys than
Boltar manages to do, and since he only travels by tube in inclement


I started commuting into london on the tube in 1996 and finaly landed a job
I could drive to once more back in 2008 so I think that 12 years of commuting
hell qualifies me as having a vague clue as to what the service is like on
quite a few of the lines I've had to use in that time.

And if LU and its staff think their service is so wonderful why don't they
scrap the fares and just let people make donations in a little box at each
station based on the level of service they think they've received in the same
vein as computer shareware? I think we all know the answer to that.

B2003


Brian Watson[_2_] January 19th 10 10:03 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
Paul wrote:

Minor delays are occurring between Camden Town and Kennington via
Charing Cross due to a fox on the track at Warren Street.


Oh, for fox sake!
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
www.imagebus.co.uk/shop



Adrian January 19th 10 10:41 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
"Brian Watson" gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Minor delays are occurring between Camden Town and Kennington via
Charing Cross due to a fox on the track at Warren Street.


Oh, for fox sake!


Also, given the location, I'd have thought the fox's purpose was obvious.

Bruce[_2_] January 19th 10 10:59 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 09:35:05 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:21:43 +0000
Eric wrote:
It's not what you complain about, it's how you do it (and to whom).


Try complaining to LU and see where it gets you.



I bet you have never tried. Not even once. Yet we have to suffer
your ridiculous whinging diatribes on here almost on a daily basis.



[email protected] January 19th 10 11:19 AM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:59:14 +0000
Bruce wrote:
Try complaining to LU and see where it gets you.



I bet you have never tried. Not even once. Yet we have to suffer


You'd lose your bet. I did complain many years ago but it got me nowhere.
Also complaining to station managers about the lack of announcements
is a waste of time too.

your ridiculous whinging diatribes on here almost on a daily basis.


Nothing like a nice bit of irony to make the day pass by :)

B2003


Bruce[_2_] January 19th 10 12:11 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:19:16 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:59:14 +0000
Bruce wrote:
Try complaining to LU and see where it gets you.



I bet you have never tried. Not even once. Yet we have to suffer


You'd lose your bet. I did complain many years ago but it got me nowhere.
Also complaining to station managers about the lack of announcements
is a waste of time too.



Once, many years ago, doesn't count. So I was right.


your ridiculous whinging diatribes on here almost on a daily basis.


Nothing like a nice bit of irony to make the day pass by :)



There's nothing "nice" or "ironic"about any of your whinging
diatribes. If you really want to improve the level of humour on the
newsgroup, stop posting.

Now *that's* irony. ;-)




David Cantrell January 19th 10 12:22 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 04:08:02AM -0800, Paul wrote:

How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track?


By walking.

--
David Cantrell | Nth greatest programmer in the world

The voices said it's a good day to clean my weapons

MIG January 19th 10 12:37 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On 19 Jan, 13:22, David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 04:08:02AM -0800, Paul wrote:
How could a fox get on to the sub surface section of the track?


By walking.



Is there still a large, vacant site just over Euston Road where
something was demolished?

More likely it entered the station than walked along the track.

[email protected] January 19th 10 12:46 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:11:47 +0000
Bruce wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:19:16 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:59:14 +0000
Bruce wrote:
Try complaining to LU and see where it gets you.


I bet you have never tried. Not even once. Yet we have to suffer


You'd lose your bet. I did complain many years ago but it got me nowhere.
Also complaining to station managers about the lack of announcements
is a waste of time too.



Once, many years ago, doesn't count.


Says who? You think I'm going to wait 10 years THEN complain?

So I was right.


"You never tried"

"Yes I did"

"That doesn't count because it was before an arbitrary deadline I made up in
my head which I'm hoping is after the unspecified date you complained. So I
was right"

Yeah , whatever.

Nothing like a nice bit of irony to make the day pass by :)



There's nothing "nice" or "ironic"about any of your whinging
diatribes. If you really want to improve the level of humour on the


Whoooosh. Went right over your head didn't it Brucey. Never mind , you are
unintentionally amusing :)

B2003


Paul January 19th 10 01:09 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On 19 Jan, 01:43, "DW downunder" noname wrote:
"Bruce" wrote in message

...





On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:
They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!


You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.


If London is so unattractive to Australians ...


... why are so many of them over here?


To make space for all the Kiwis and boat people who keep flooding into Oz,
of course G.

You'll notice that almost all in GB are Euro-Australians, and for many, GB =
the nation of family origins. So, it's natural to seek out one's roots if
one lives in an environment with so many references to "the Old Country".

For example, I was born in Luton. My late father-in-law came from South
Shields. My late father was a Brummie. My mother from Islington. My wife has
a maternal ancestor from the East End. And so on it goes.

So, Earl's Court was (is) the first stage of an Ozzie's "pilgrimage" to
'honour' their ancestors.

DW down under- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Wasn't there a fox photographed at Walthamstow Central recently? Even
so I can't see how what one would be doing in the vicinity of Warren
Street tube station.

[email protected] January 19th 10 01:19 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:09:19 -0800 (PST)
Paul wrote:
Wasn't there a fox photographed at Walthamstow Central recently? Even
so I can't see how what one would be doing in the vicinity of Warren
Street tube station.


Central london has a population of foxes. I guess they live in gardens and
the parks.

B2003


Richard J.[_3_] January 19th 10 02:31 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
MIG wrote on 19 January 2010 07:37:29 ...
On 18 Jan, 23:39, "Richard J." wrote:
MIG wrote on 18 January 2010 21:27:23 ...
On 18 Jan, 19:53, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 18 January 2010 16:55:35 ...
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:36:57 +0000
Bruce wrote:


They probably make a snap judgment to emigrate having been driven
around the bend by chronic moaners like you!
You are the very definition of a "Whinging Pom". ;-)


Whinging is complaining about stuff you just don't happen to like. Thats
different to complaining about a ****ty service you pay through the nose
for. I doubt many aussies would put up with the same kind of **** train
service we get in this country.


Some comments on the London Tube on a TripAdvisor thread last month:
"The most efficient transport system I've had anything to do with"
"not one delay, not one closure ever.........so I am in awe of the tube !"
- both from Aussies!


That would count for something if there were never any delays or
closures.
In this case, it just makes them an unreliable witness. Best not to
put them on the stand.


Unreliable? Why? It's their opinion based on probably more journeys than
Boltar manages to do, and since he only travels by tube in inclement
weather when both road and rail performance will be worse than average,
it's his evidence that is unreliable.


And, based on it, do you agree that there are never any delays or
closures?


No, of course not. But it's worth remembering that people can spend a
week in London and be impressed by the transport system.

One doesn't have to take Boltar's tone to observe that such things are
frequent.

I look at the service updates right now and see

Circle Suspended
District Severe delays
H'Smith & City Part suspended
Metropolitan Part suspended


I think you'll find that all of those were caused by a single incident
requiring emergency engineering work in the Aldgate area. Personally
I'm impressed by the number of times I see "good service" on all lines,
much more common than it was a couple of years ago, I would think.

I also see that at the weekend, EIGHT lines will have at least partial
closures.

The witness may only commute between Theydon Bois and Epping one
Monday morning per month and never see such things, but the evidence
is unrepresentative.


Yes, the foxes can get out of the way more easily there.

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

Bruce[_2_] January 19th 10 02:44 PM

Fox Under A Train
 
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 06:09:19 -0800 (PST), Paul
wrote:
Wasn't there a fox photographed at Walthamstow Central recently? Even
so I can't see how what one would be doing in the vicinity of Warren
Street tube station.



At Warren Street?

More likely to be a rabbit. ;-)


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