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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:49:40 +0000
David Hansen wrote: Absolutes are difficult. However, I think talk of a global Jewish conspiracy and the like tends to come from other groups these days. Certainly when such an attack is made on George Galloway's radio programme it tends not to come from the right wing nuts but rather the sort of Islamic nuts who give Islam a bad name. Though no doubt Galloway will be putting on his palestinian scarf the moment the argument heads in that direction. I'm surprised he has time to do a radio show these days what with being thrown out of various arab countries all the time. B2003 |
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On 25 Jan, 22:49, SB wrote:
Interesting experience on the Bakelooo Line at the weekend. The carriage had about 20 people in it, mainly scattered around. At Oxford Circus two women (sans male escorts) entered one end of the carriage and sat down. They were dressed all in black - like they do in Iraq / Iran. They had the real slitty-eyed look. Well quite a few people looked at them and then at each other and suddenly decided that they really did not want to be sitting near them, and they moved towards the other end of the carriage near where I was. Not that that would have saved them in an emergency. One of two muttered "well you never know do you?" I got off at Charing Cross, but noticed that by then the two women had their end of the carriage all to themselves. What would you have done? SB. Perhaps they were men. Anyhow I don't think suicide bombers bomb in pairs. I would enjoy the space and relax. |
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On 26 Jan, 09:17, Graeme wrote:
In message * * * * * TimB wrote: On Jan 26, 8:24*am, Graeme wrote: In message * * * * * SB wrote: Interesting experience on the Bakelooo Line at the weekend. The carriage had about 20 people in it, mainly scattered around. At Oxford Circus two women (sans male escorts) entered one end of the carriage and sat down. They were dressed all in black - like they do in Iraq / Iran. They had the real slitty-eyed look. Well quite a few people looked at them and then at each other and suddenly decided that they really did not want to be sitting near them, and they moved towards the other end of the carriage near where I was. Not that that would have saved them in an emergency. One of two muttered "well you never know do you?" I got off at Charing Cross, but noticed that by then the two women had their end of the carriage all to themselves. What would you have done? SB. If they'd have been nuns would people have been so stupid? *After all the costume is much the same. -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/ The OP doesn't spend much time in London, does he? An utterly normal scene. I'm told that some young Muslim women wear a burka in public just to freak idiots like that out :-) -- Graeme Wall Who by? Wouldn't be very Islamic. I thought the idea was to make the women "invisible", to men. |
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SB wrote:
Interesting experience on the Bakelooo Line at the weekend. The carriage had about 20 people in it, mainly scattered around. At Oxford Circus two women (sans male escorts) entered one end of the carriage and sat down. They were dressed all in black - like they do in Iraq / Iran. They had the real slitty-eyed look. Well quite a few people looked at them and then at each other and suddenly decided that they really did not want to be sitting near them, and they moved towards the other end of the carriage near where I was. Not that that would have saved them in an emergency. One of two muttered "well you never know do you?" I got off at Charing Cross, but noticed that by then the two women had their end of the carriage all to themselves. What would you have done? SB. A valid, if well-worn point, sadly wrapped up in racist nonsense. If you want to try to stimulate debate about the unease felt by many at not being able to see the faces of others in public, then it's best not to show your prejudices in the process. Am I uneasy about sitting next to ANYONE with their face covered? Yes. That's human nature. Does the thought of suicide bombers in Israel etc. add to that concern? Yes, sadly it does, though I wish that wasn't the case. Would I move? No, that would be playing into the hands of the terrorists who want us to feel at risk. It also widens the racial divide and alienates the moderate majority of Muslims. By the way. If I read any paper, it tends to be the Daily Mail. It doesn't seem to have driven me into the arms of UKIP or the BNP yet. This popular demonisation of DM readers does irritate me. It's a cheap remark that gets thrown in to every racism discussion by people who haven't got the brains to think of anything original. It doesn't show how racially tolerant or socially aware you are. It just demonstrates a different form of prejudice. Adrian |
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On 26 Jan, 16:03, "Recliner" wrote:
wrote in message On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:38:02 +0000 Graeme wrote: I believe David was referring to the IRA habit of phoning in a warning about a bomb in one place and then detonating another just where the police were evacuating people to. Ah , I didn't realise they did that. Still , nothing those ****s did would surprise me. I seem to recall that they sometimes claimed that it was just confusion, not a deliberate attempt. It's certainly true that their warnings were often unclear about the target, but that may sometimes have been because of ignorance/panic/confusion. No. It happened too often to be random errors. Some of our Irish neighbours hate us as much as the latest wave of bombers ( but we still let them tout for money in English pubs) and their tactics and individual attrocities were as bad as current terrorism. |
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Of course, this is another big difference between aQ and the IRA -- the former are proud to kill innocent bystanders (who are most often Moslems), the latter claimed to have no desire so to do What they claim and the truth are not necessarily the same. On reflection it was, or is, hardly ever the same |
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"SB" wrote in message ... Interesting experience on the Bakelooo Line at the weekend. The carriage had about 20 people in it, mainly scattered around. At Oxford Circus two women (sans male escorts) entered one end of the carriage and sat down. They were dressed all in black - like they do in Iraq / Iran. They had the real slitty-eyed look. Well quite a few people looked at them and then at each other and suddenly decided that they really did not want to be sitting near them, and they moved towards the other end of the carriage near where I was. Not that that would have saved them in an emergency. One of two muttered "well you never know do you?" I got off at Charing Cross, but noticed that by then the two women had their end of the carriage all to themselves. What would you have done? SB. Learnt a lesson.... next time I want to travel in comfort, not surrounded by chavs and screaming kids, dress all in black with a slitty-eyed look....... |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... On 25 Jan, 22:49, SB wrote: Interesting experience on the Bakelooo Line at the weekend. The carriage had about 20 people in it, mainly scattered around. At Oxford Circus two women (sans male escorts) entered one end of the carriage and sat down. They were dressed all in black - like they do in Iraq / Iran. They had the real slitty-eyed look. Well quite a few people looked at them and then at each other and suddenly decided that they really did not want to be sitting near them, and they moved towards the other end of the carriage near where I was. Not that that would have saved them in an emergency. One of two muttered "well you never know do you?" I got off at Charing Cross, but noticed that by then the two women had their end of the carriage all to themselves. What would you have done? SB. Perhaps they were men. Anyhow I don't think suicide bombers bomb in pairs. I would enjoy the space and relax. World's best headline: "One killed in suicide bombing" |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:49:23 +0100 someone who may be "Willms"
wrote this:- There is some debate over whether it is religious or cultural. which is irrelevant. The issue is the women's right to decide themselves about their clothing People tend not to feel entirely free to wear what clothes they want. Cultural pressures affect almost everyone. -- or should the government decide if a skirt may reach beyond the knee, or not, or if a woman may wear a bra or not? In the latter case ISTR it was some people with their own idea of what religion demanded. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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On 26/01/2010 09:06, TimB wrote:
On Jan 26, 8:24 am, wrote: In wrote: Interesting experience on the Bakelooo Line at the weekend. The carriage had about 20 people in it, mainly scattered around. At Oxford Circus two women (sans male escorts) entered one end of the carriage and sat down. They were dressed all in black - like they do in Iraq / Iran. They had the real slitty-eyed look. Well quite a few people looked at them and then at each other and suddenly decided that they really did not want to be sitting near them, and they moved towards the other end of the carriage near where I was. Not that that would have saved them in an emergency. One of two muttered "well you never know do you?" I got off at Charing Cross, but noticed that by then the two women had their end of the carriage all to themselves. What would you have done? SB. If they'd have been nuns would people have been so stupid? After all the costume is much the same. -- Graeme Wall This address not read, substitute trains for rail Transport Miscellany atwww.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail Photo galleries athttp://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/ The OP doesn't spend much time in London, does he? An utterly normal scene. People actually noticing each other on the Underground is pretty unusual... though at least he didn't claim anyone spoke to each other. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On 26/01/2010 16:52, Recliner wrote:
"David wrote in message On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:02:48 +0000 (UTC) someone who may be d wrote this:- If they had been suicide bombers they would be acting alone to maximise damge. Neither would they draw attention to themselves by dressing in such an obvious manner. Perhaps moving to the other end of the carriage placed people next to the real bomber who was standing there incognito. Indeed, a variant on the IRA tactics (particularly in their latter years). Since when did the IRA use suicide bombers? I never claimed that they did. However, particularly in their later years, they had a habit of sometimes placing a bomb where people might congregate after moving away from a "bomb". Whether this first "bomb" was real or not was somewhat immaterial, it was the second one which was intended to kill and injure the most people. It was sometimes claimed that this was to do with some fault, by the person who got the warning and passed it on, or by the police, but there are only so many times it can be used before that excuse is untennable. Of course, this is another big difference between aQ and the IRA -- the former are proud to kill innocent bystanders (who are most often Moslems), the latter claimed to have no desire so to do. Planting bombs is a pretty crap way of avoiding killing people. Of course you can argue about "innocent" - which side was your great^x grandmother on in 1169? -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:59:59 +0000, Arthur Figgis
wrote: ---snipped--- If anything, it seems to be the far-ish left who see Jewish (and/or Israeli and/or Zionist) conspiracies everywhere. And that's exactly what the alien lizards want them to think. Ah but are these alien lizards white, gray, or tangerine coloured? |
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That's not intimidating. A ****ed up Newcastle bound hen party, that’s intimidating. |
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Vote BNP. McKevvy- Hide quoted text - Well Enoch Powell did foresee "rivers of blood" if we let in all these foreigners. But of course he was said to be an idiot. Its a shame he didnt live to see his prophesy come true. |
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On 26 Jan, 21:54, Railwayman wrote:
Well Enoch Powell did foresee "rivers of blood" if we let in all these foreigners. But of course he was said to be an idiot. Its a shame he didnt live to see his prophesy come true. The "Birmingham speech" is an interesting piece of oration, one that should be read carefully and the various opinions picked apart and considered. My fav line is a the quote from one of his constituents that is supposed to have inspired the speech: "If I had the money to go, I wouldn't stay in this country". AE |
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On 26/01/2010 20:30, Willms wrote:
Am Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:37:39 UTC, schrieb David Hansen auf uk.railway : -- or should the government decide if a skirt may reach beyond the knee, or not, or if a woman may wear a bra or not? In the latter case ISTR it was some people with their own idea of what religion demanded. which then is _their_ decision to follow that religious urge or not. I have met women who feel naked when their face is not completely covered by some chemical product, hiding their own facial skin. It can be even worse, if a women has to uncover more of her body as she is accustomed to. This male, patriarchal society should not make rules about how much of their body women have to cover or to lay bare to the male public. Yes, British men are so well known for noticing and caring about what women are wearing. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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"Willms" wrote in message ... Am Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:41:26 UTC, schrieb David Hansen auf uk.railway : A full description is required, you may confusing traditionally clothed muslim women Such clothing is traditional for women to wear in some areas of the world. There is some debate over whether it is religious or cultural. which is irrelevant. The issue is the women's right to decide themselves about their clothing -- or should the government decide if a skirt may reach beyond the knee, or not, or if a woman may wear a bra or not? Cheers, L.W. Wearing of a bra is often easy, just get them to jump up and down. Cheers, Simon |
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:30:47 +0100 someone who may be "Willms"
wrote this:- This male, patriarchal society should not make rules about how much of their body women have to cover or to lay bare to the male public. None of the women I know best seem to believe that they live in a male patriarchal society, other than when they are joking. Although they presumably feel some cultural pressures, they largely seem to wear what they want to. Last week I was told that an organisation I am involved in might have "gender issues", after I suggested that people often bonded best in pubs rather than on "team building exercises". I didn't tell the person that we do indeed have gender issues, the main gender issue being that I am one of the few token males. Neither did I tell her that the idea of bonding in a pub comes from several of the women, one of whom had told me of the research about pubs. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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On 26 Jan, 21:54, Railwayman wrote:
Vote BNP. McKevvy- Hide quoted text - Well Enoch Powell did foresee "rivers of blood" if we let in all these foreigners. But of course he was said to be an idiot. Its a shame he didnt live to see his prophesy come true. Which is the quote that is always trotted out along with the 'Enoch was right' line - of course the last 40 years have proved him completely wrong - Im sitting here in an outer suburb of a fine northern city, many of my neghbours have different pigmentation to me, yet the streets are not rivers running with blood, but usually running with children playing football and neighbours bringing in each others wheely bins. They are nice likeable children, and good decent neighbours. And of course for almost all of us that is the experience of immigration, that different skin colours dont automatically lead to conflict ( and again showing that Enoch was wrong) and that is why the right wing racists have changed their strategy and started saying that islam is the issue not race. Its pretty clear the two women in the original post have more to fear from the mindset of the OP than he has to fear from them. |
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Paul Corfield wrote: On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:36:52 -0800 (PST), allanbonnetracy wrote: That's not intimidating. A ****ed up Newcastle bound hen party, that’s intimidating. No - the ****ed up hen party *in* Newcastle city centre on a Friday or Saturday night is intimidating. Four middle aged ladies returning to Doncaster after a day's shopping in London. *That* was intimidating. Sam |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:33:06 +0000
Sam Wilson wrote: That's not intimidating. A ****ed up Newcastle bound hen party, that’s intimidating. No - the ****ed up hen party *in* Newcastle city centre on a Friday or Saturday night is intimidating. Four middle aged ladies returning to Doncaster after a day's shopping in London. *That* was intimidating. Can't be worse than a bunch of slightly tipsy northern matrons returning from a day out in Lille on the E*. "Oh aye Joan, and said ta tha waaaytah, eh Pierre , you got a long baguette then loov? *cackle cackle*" A journey I won't forget in a hurry. B2003 |
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from Sam Wilson contains these words: Four middle aged ladies returning to Doncaster after a day's shopping in London. *That* was intimidating. Gerroff! Are you a man or a mouse?? I cadged a lift to the Warley Show at the NEC on a bus that was taking a party of middle-aged (and older) females, inluding The Wife, to another exhibition. "Don't worry, mate" said the driver when I got on "we've got 'em outnumbered - mentally!" Now *that's* the attitude to adopt! -- Dave, Frodsham http://dave-jackson.fotopic.net |
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On 27 Jan, 08:36, silvermachine wrote:
On 26 Jan, 21:54, Railwayman wrote: Vote BNP. McKevvy- Hide quoted text - Well Enoch Powell did foresee "rivers of blood" if we let in all these foreigners. But of course he was said to be an idiot. Its a shame he didnt live to see his prophesy come true. Which is the quote that is always trotted out along with the 'Enoch was right' line - of course the last 40 years have proved him completely wrong - Im sitting here in an outer suburb of a fine northern city, many of my neghbours have different pigmentation to me, yet the streets are not rivers running with blood, but usually running with children playing football and neighbours bringing in each others wheely bins. They are nice likeable children, and good decent neighbours. And of course for almost all of us that is the experience of immigration, that different skin colours dont automatically lead to conflict ( and again showing that Enoch was wrong) and that is why the right wing racists have changed their strategy and started saying that islam is the issue not race. Its pretty clear the two women in the original post have more to fear from the mindset of the OP than he has to fear from them. Indeed, the alien threat to the values of our society is that of the Nazi BNP and EDL (and the waiverers in UKIP). |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:13:45 -0800 (PST)
MIG wrote: Indeed, the alien threat to the values of our society is that of the (and the waiverers in UKIP). Wtf has UKIP got to do with it? Are those of us who'd like to give Brussels 2 fingers all racist now as well as far as you lefties are concerned? You'll be seeing racists under your bed soon. Better check behind the door and in dark corners too just in case they jump out at you! B2003 |
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Railwayman wrote: Vote BNP. McKevvy- Hide quoted text - Well Enoch Powell did foresee "rivers of blood" if we let in all these foreigners. But of course he was said to be an idiot. This remark was superfluous. Just make sure you can manage to find Khrisong. Oh, yes, and the missing episodes. Yes. Its a shame he didnt live to see his prophesy come true. He took his meals and passed his time at the end of the hill. |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:58:12 -0000
"Tim Fenton" wrote: wrote in message ... Indeed, the alien threat to the values of our society is that of the (and the waiverers in UKIP). Wtf has UKIP got to do with it? Are those of us who'd like to give Brussels 2 fingers all racist now as well as far as you lefties are concerned? I refer the Hon Usenaut to the new leader of UKIP, Lord Pearson, who likes to bang on about immigration. Hard to stop him once he gets going. Young Dave must be a happy man after hearing of his appointment. Feel free to explain what exactly is racist about discussing immigration. B2003 |
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On 27 Jan, 16:13, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:58:12 -0000 "Tim Fenton" wrote: wrote in message ... Indeed, the alien threat to the values of our society is that of the (and the waiverers in UKIP). Wtf has UKIP got to do with it? Are those of us who'd like to give Brussels 2 fingers all racist now as well as far as you lefties are concerned? I refer the Hon Usenaut to the new leader of UKIP, Lord Pearson, who likes to bang on about immigration. Hard to stop him once he gets going. Young Dave must be a happy man after hearing of his appointment. Feel free to explain what exactly is racist about discussing immigration. B2003 I think you were the one to mention racism. My general gist is that being alien, ie not fitting in, is not restricted to, and need not include, government of the place you were born, skin pigmentation, clothing etc. A determination to destroy a tradition of freedom and tolerance is the kind of thing that I find really alien. I don't want to live in a country that legislates on what people are allowed to wear. Forcing women to take off veils is as obscene as forcing women to wear them. It would be like forcing a "liberated" woman to walk around topless, feeling that she was being ogled at, or forcing you or me to walk around with our balls out, to be laughed at. No matter how rationally I know that the human body is natural etc etc, I've internalised the repression such that it would cause me psychological harm to be stripped naked now against my will. |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:38:47 -0800 (PST)
MIG wrote: I think you were the one to mention racism. So what else did you have in mind when you mentioned the BNP then? born, skin pigmentation, clothing etc. A determination to destroy a tradition of freedom and tolerance is the kind of thing that I find really alien. "a tradition of freedom and tolerance" is just a tired old rose tinted daydream of liberal lefties now repeated as a mindless mantra by politicians and commentators alike in the same way that everyone is supposed to hold the same opinion that multiculturalism is so wonderful unless they want to be barracked by any right-on halfwit to happens to pass by. Its never been that way in this country other than by the governing classes who were not and are not affected by mass immgration because they didn't live in the areas the immigrants moved into or compete for the jobs with said immigrants. I personally don't have a problem with immigration or asylum - within limits. However those limits have been comprehensibly exceeded and to see that disingenuous arsewipe Jack Straw say on Question Time that he didn't have a problem with the population going up to 70m just shows what a deluded world these people live in. I don't want to live in a country that legislates on what people are allowed to wear. Forcing women to take off veils is as obscene as It already does in a way. Try walking around naked down Oxford Street and see how long before you're arrested. However if women want to wear a veil thats up to them. Its when they're forced to by their husbands or family that the problems start. B2003 |
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On 26 Jan, 13:20, "Brian Watson" wrote:
wrote in message ... Since when did the IRA use suicide bombers? You don't remember them holding on to the grenade and throwing the pin away? I'll get me coat..... -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."www.imagebus.co.uk/shop I do remember them pulling up in front of a police station in Bangor in a Transit, throwing open the rear doors and firing an RPG. The rocket exhaust set fire to the front seat passenger in the Transit and singed the driver. |
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wrote in message ... I do remember them pulling up in front of a police station in Bangor in a Transit, throwing open the rear doors and firing an RPG. The rocket exhaust set fire to the front seat passenger in the Transit and singed the driver. Lol! But, in Bangor? They let off a banger in Bangor? That is SO clever! -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." www.imagebus.co.uk/shop |
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:41:34 +0000
Charles Ellson wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:31:31 +0000 (UTC), d wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:13:45 -0800 (PST) MIG wrote: Indeed, the alien threat to the values of our society is that of the (and the waiverers in UKIP). Wtf has UKIP aka "BNP lite". It worries me people like you have the vote. You're just another sad sheep who can't think for himself. B2003 |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:28:41 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:41:34 +0000 Charles Ellson wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:31:31 +0000 (UTC), d wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 06:13:45 -0800 (PST) MIG wrote: Indeed, the alien threat to the values of our society is that of the (and the waiverers in UKIP). Wtf has UKIP aka "BNP lite". It worries me people like you have the vote. You're just another sad sheep who can't think for himself. Baaaaaa! |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:44:42 +0000
Paul Corfield wrote: come and reside in "boltar world". It's also news that we have to think like you and hold the same views as you too. I can see trouble ahead ... Nothing to do with holding the same views. I'm just ****ing sick and tired of just because people like me think theres a problem with immigration levels and the control brussels have over this country, the liberal lefties tar us with the same brush as the sort of people who beat up jews and go and kick black kids to death at a bus stop. If every leftie who waffled on about how much they love multiculturalism and centralised EU control was immediately compared with the Khmer Rouge or the Baader-Meinhof Group as soon as they opened their mouths they'd soon be bleating indignantly like a bunch of wet sheep. B2003 |
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