Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

In article
,
(MIG) wrote:

On 6 Feb, 21:43, "Yokel" wrote:
"Clive" wrote in message

...
| In message , Chris Tolley
| writes| Clive wrote:

|
| I have frequently been refused onto a sight and redirected to
| correct my phone number as it's only 10 digits in total. Normally
| after about two tries I give up, If the software is so sloppy
| then their service is likely too be the same.
|
| ... and there's absolutely no chance that you would have made a
| mistake or typing error on the screen?
|
| No, I go back to the incorrect field which is usually marked with a
| star and it's asking for a proper telephone number.

Is that the same software that refuses to accept any house number
ending in "A" (and there are quite a few) because it thinks you are
living in a flat or maisonette? *Even the Post Office uses this
rubbish software, as I found out when I booked travel insurance from
them. *Argos does as well, resulting in me having to fill in a form at
the counter, not on their pay terminal, when I bought a TV from them.
*My house number ends in "A", not because it is a subdivision of one
house but because it was built on an infill site and the Post Office
did not think it necessary to renumber every house on from us on our
side of *the road. *So software they use does not recognise house
numbers they have actually allocated!

House numbering is the responsibility of the local council, not the Post
office. We have such A numbers in my street, both for the reasons you give.

There is far too much software written without checking or thinking
about whether it will actually work in the real world.

The trouble is the customers of such crap providers get just as frustrated
as you do. We have problems at work as our web site contractor forgot that
the rest of the world doesn't have postcodes in the format we use in this
country.

Living in London, I have trouble with the ones that insist on a
county.

I always put "X". Teach them right for being so stupid.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On Feb 7, 12:36*am, David Hansen
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:43:54 -0000 someone who may be "Yokel"
wrote this:-

Argos does as well, resulting
in me having to fill in a form at the counter, not on their pay terminal,
when I bought a TV from them.

Why fill in a form with an address when buying a television?

Telegraphy Act of 1967 (as amended).


BBC tax? I find that the address of the BBC television licence bods
does nicely to deal with that sort of Stalinism.

Of course you could just pay it and stop fighting the world. You don't
have to give them your real name, and they don't much care about it
either - it's the premises that are licensed after all.

(Unless of course one wants to try and keep the specific premises off
their records, but that's kinda hard as they probably know about it
already - their address database is supposed to be one of the most
accurate, up to date ones that exists.)

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

In article ,
(David Hansen) wrote:

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:43:54 -0000 someone who may be "Yokel"
wrote this:-

Argos does as well, resulting in me having to fill in a form at the
counter, not on their pay terminal, when I bought a TV from them.

Why fill in a form with an address when buying a television?

BBC tax? I find that the address of the BBC television licence bods
does nicely to deal with that sort of Stalinism.

It's a legal requirement. Giving a false address is probably an offence in
itself.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:02:02 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Mizter T
wrote this:-

Of course you could just pay it

You are making the assumption that I don't pay the BBC tax.

and stop fighting the world. You don't
have to give them your real name, and they don't much care about it
either - it's the premises that are licensed after all.

Who said anything about my name? Not me.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On 7 Feb, 01:48, David Hansen wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:02:02 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Mizter T
wrote this:-

Of course you could just pay it

You are making the assumption that I don't pay the BBC tax.

and stop fighting the world. You don't
have to give them your real name, and they don't much care about it
either - it's the premises that are licensed after all.

Who said anything about my name? Not me.

If you haven't got a TV licence and give your address at Comet or
wherever, you get a letter from the TV licence people PDQ, although
they don't know if you were buying equipment for someone else as a
present.

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On Feb 7, 1:48*am, David Hansen
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:02:02 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Mizter T
wrote this:-

Of course you could just pay it

You are making the assumption that I don't pay the BBC tax.

and stop fighting the world. You don't
have to give them your real name, and they don't much care about it
either - it's the premises that are licensed after all.

Who said anything about my name? Not me.

I was being exceptionally dense and just thinking that the address of
the BBC licensing bods would be used to give them a piece of your
mind. Yes, I know it doesn't make any sense in the context of things -
apologies, yesterday had been a long day.

FWIW, given the keenness for retailers to put one onto their marketing
database, I can well understand wanting to sidestep this somehow. I
was in a supermarket recently where someone was buying a television,
and the guy was somewhat perturbed as the sales lady was completely
unable to give a reason for why she was asking for his address -
indeed I think there was something a bit more complex like the
television wasn't for his dwelling or some such.

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:02:02 -0800 (PST), Mizter T
wrote:

Argos does as well, resulting
in me having to fill in a form at the counter, not on their pay terminal,
when I bought a TV from them.

Why fill in a form with an address when buying a television?

Telegraphy Act of 1967 (as amended).

Extended warranty? If someone is coming to repair your TV, it helps
if they know where it is.

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On 7 Feb, 11:23, Mizter T wrote:
On Feb 7, 1:48*am, David Hansen
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:02:02 -0800 (PST) someone who may be Mizter T
wrote this:-

Of course you could just pay it

You are making the assumption that I don't pay the BBC tax.

and stop fighting the world. You don't
have to give them your real name, and they don't much care about it
either - it's the premises that are licensed after all.

Who said anything about my name? Not me.

I was being exceptionally dense and just thinking that the address of
the BBC licensing bods would be used to give them a piece of your
mind. Yes, I know it doesn't make any sense in the context of things -
apologies, yesterday had been a long day.

FWIW, given the keenness for retailers to put one onto their marketing
database, I can well understand wanting to sidestep this somehow. I
was in a supermarket recently where someone was buying a television,
and the guy was somewhat perturbed as the sales lady was completely
unable to give a reason for why she was asking for his address -
indeed I think there was something a bit more complex like the
television wasn't for his dwelling or some such.

On the face of it, their passing such details to the TV licensing
authorities would seem to be in breach of Data Protection if specific
permission hasn't been given and so on, but maybe it's one of those
"Secretary of State" requests that the TV licensing people can make of
retailers. Can they require retailers to collect it in the first
place though?

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Mizter T wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:36 am, David Hansen
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:43:54 -0000 someone who may be "Yokel"
wrote this:-

Argos does as well, resulting
in me having to fill in a form at the counter, not on their pay terminal,
when I bought a TV from them.
Why fill in a form with an address when buying a television?

Telegraphy Act of 1967 (as amended).


I had to fill in such a form when I bought a video recorder from
Tesco.

Does the law also apply to to USB Freeview gadgets, I wonder?

Charlie

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On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 02:09:54 -0800 (PST) someone who may be MIG
wrote this:-

If you haven't got a TV licence and give your address at Comet or
wherever, you get a letter from the TV licence people PDQ,

Even when there is a licence at a particular address people often
get one of these threats from the BBC. Like all letters from the BBC
the best thing to do with it is use it for compost or shred and
recycle.



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54