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Paul Cummins[_3_] February 7th 10 07:16 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 
In article ,
(Graeme) wrote:


Hence giving them the BBC television licence address, or the false
flats above the Circle Line, House of Commons, or one of the other
suitable addresses.




Which, of course, can render you liable for prosecution.


On what basis?

The "You're not allowed to lie to shops" act 2012?
--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

[email protected] February 7th 10 08:02 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 
In article t,
(Paul Cummins) wrote:

In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

Berkshire continues to exist as an administrative entity (specifically
as a non-metropolitan county), albeit one without a county council.


fx: Panto Oh no it doesn't :-)


It does. It has a Lord Lieutenant, in particular. Bedfordshire is now
similar to Berkshire but also has a police force (it's part of Thames
Valley Police).

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] February 7th 10 08:02 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 
In article
,
(Mizter T) wrote:

e.g. the Borough of Middlesborough and City of Tork are both UAs, but
are within the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire.


Exceptionally amongst Unitaries, Stockton is divided between two counties
(along the Tees). North is in Durham for ceremonial purposes, South is in
North Yorkshire.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] February 7th 10 08:02 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 
In article ,
(Graeme) wrote:

You are all mouth David, for a start the letters don't come from
the BBC.


The TV Licensing Office is run these days by the BBC. Older readers may
remember when it was run by the Post Office.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Mizter T February 7th 10 08:48 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On Feb 7, 9:02*pm, wrote:

In article ,
(Graeme) wrote:
You are all mouth David, for a start the letters don't come from
the BBC.


The TV Licensing Office is run these days by the BBC. Older readers may
remember when it was run by the Post Office.


Well, collecting the license fee is the responsibility of the BBC as
opposed to the PO these days - the BBC then largely contracts that
work out, Capita doing the bulk of the work. So whilst the BBC
certainly has an in-house TV licensing department/ office that
oversees everything, the public's regular dealings with 'TV Licensing'
will actually be with one of the BBC's appointed contractors.

Graeme[_2_] February 7th 10 09:10 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 
In message t
(Paul Cummins) wrote:

In article ,
(Graeme) wrote:


Hence giving them the BBC television licence address, or the false
flats above the Circle Line, House of Commons, or one of the other
suitable addresses.




Which, of course, can render you liable for prosecution.


On what basis?

The "You're not allowed to lie to shops" act 2012?


Wireless Telegraphy Act referred to earlier. You are not lying to the shop
yoy are lying to a body with a statuary duty to collect the information
demanded. It could, in fact in the event of a prosecution it would, be
argued that you gave false information with intent to evade payment. In
practical terms the requirement is largely superceded by the address data
base so David can happily play silly buggers as much as he likes.

However it is not clever for others on this group to boast about not paying
their licence fee. Given I derive part of my income from it I have every
incentive to shop them to the cops.

--
Graeme Wall

This address not read, substitute trains for rail
Transport Miscellany at www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail
Photo galleries at http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net/

Mizter T February 7th 10 09:53 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On Feb 7, 6:32*pm, (Paul Cummins) wrote:

(Mizter T) wrote:
Berkshire continues to exist as an administrative entity
(specifically as a non-metropolitan county),
albeit one without a county council.


fx: Panto Oh no it doesn't :-)


I was perhaps a bit unclear - Berkshire still exists in an
administrative sense in that it remains a non-metropolitan county, it
just doesn't have a county council any more. (My reference to it as an
'administrative entity' is perhaps potentially confusing, not least
because the the "administrative county" died in legalese in 1974.)

The same situation now exists with regards to Bedforshire and
Cheshire. It's similar to the situation metropolitan counties are in -
they continue to exist (e.g. Greater Manchester, Tyne & Wear etc), but
they don't have a county council any more.

Mizter T February 7th 10 09:55 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 

On Feb 7, 10:53*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Feb 7, 6:32*pm, (Paul Cummins) wrote:

(Mizter T) wrote:
Berkshire continues to exist as an administrative entity
(specifically as a non-metropolitan county),
albeit one without a county council.


fx: Panto Oh no it doesn't :-)


I was perhaps a bit unclear - Berkshire still exists in an
administrative sense in that it remains a non-metropolitan county, it
just doesn't have a county council any more. (My reference to it as an
'administrative entity' is perhaps potentially confusing, not least
because the the "administrative county" died in legalese in 1974.)


^^^ ...not least because the *term* "administrative county" died in
legalese in 1974...


The same situation now exists with regards to Bedforshire and
Cheshire. It's similar to the situation metropolitan counties are in -
they continue to exist (e.g. Greater Manchester, Tyne & Wear etc), but
they don't have a county council any more.



Tom Anderson February 7th 10 09:57 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 
On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Mizter T wrote:

There was one company I had recent online dealings with that didn't have
any sort of London option at all - I'm quite sure a good many Londoners
wouldn't be too sure of their 'historic' county, for example how many
know exactly where ye olde dividing line between Kent and Surrey lay?
I've got a broad idea, but that's only coz I've looked it up on maps of
yore.


Given that the post office doesn't pay any attention to the county,
couldn't you fill in whatever you liked?

tom

--
Dreams are not covered by any laws. They can be about anything. --
Cmdr Zorg

Paul Cummins[_3_] February 7th 10 10:03 PM

Conflict of Oyster Cards
 
In article ,
(Graeme) wrote:

However it is not clever for others on this group to boast about
not paying their licence fee. Given I derive part of my income from
it I have every incentive to shop them to the cops.


OK. I have a TV, and I do not pay for a TV Licence. I am satisfied that a
licence I *do* hold covers me. Feel free to let the police know.

However, I'm pretty sure they are uninterested in the matter...

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981


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