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Charles Ellson wrote:

[snip]

It isn't "technical" - a receiving licence is required to use
apparatus to watch anything that is being currently broadcast over the
air but not for anything which is recorded (in that case only the
originator of a broadcast still requires a licence). No receiving
licence is required if equipment capable of doing so is not installed
or used for that purpose. In the case of a computer the mere
capability (which won't be there if there is no aerial) is not enough

Not strictly true as you need a licence to watch BBC material streamed live
on the net.

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On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:47:43 -0800 (PST) someone who may be
ticketyboo wrote this:-

Living in a Unitary Authority, I have trouble with the ones that
insist on a county (I put the UA name in again).

Yep. A lot of incompetent organisations insist that Edinburgh is in
Midlothian. It isn't.


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On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:12:15 +0000 someone who may be Charles Ellson
wrote this:-

ITYF the offence is formed not by the failure to provide the true
address but by the deliberate giving of a false address.

In an FoI reply the BBC have stated what I repeated. Can't be
bothered to look up where I found it, but it was in an anti-BBC tax
web site so if I was to rely on it I would double check.

As a back up there are also the Common Law offences covering fraud and
theft in Scotland or deception offences under the Fraud Act in England
and Wales.

If one already has a subscription, or has no need for a
subscription, then one is not cheating the BBC out of money by
poking fun at Stalinism.

If the name and address are collected for the purposes of complying
with the WTA then a shop cannot divert that information for its own
purposes.

Such a touching faith in the law. You remind me of party
politicians, they think that if they pass a law then that will stop
something happening.

Of course a shop can do that, it may be illegal, but that does not
stop them doing it.



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54

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On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:16:03 +0000 someone who may be Charles Ellson
wrote this:-

If the name and/or address are incorrect it might kill the warranty
because there is no evidence that the current owner is the person who
bought the television.

Is this a condition of many warranties?


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54

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In message
David Hansen wrote:

On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 23:12:15 +0000 someone who may be Charles Ellson
wrote this:-

ITYF the offence is formed not by the failure to provide the true
address but by the deliberate giving of a false address.

In an FoI reply the BBC have stated what I repeated. Can't be
bothered to look up where I found it,

Funny that you never can in these circumstances.

but it was in an anti-BBC tax web site so if I was to rely on it I would
double check.


No you wouldn't, it reinforces your inane prejudices so you'd accept it.

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On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:25:40 +0000
wrote:
It is possible to just have a system where you enter a code number
after the red button which removes a cover "Screen". It was used by

It would require at least new software in the boxes and then everyone phones
their mates and tells them the code or posts the code online anyway.

You couldn't have a seperate code for each box because you'd need to match
the box with the subscriber and currently thats not possible with standard
freeview equipment because they don't have phone home facilities unlike Sky+
boxes.

B2003

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On Feb 7, 12:51*am, Mizter T wrote:

Why does it need to know whether you live in a house or flat/
maisonette, and for that matter what would it matter if it thought you
did live in a flat?

I live in a flat that is numbered in the sequence for the street (no
A, B etc) - so in this kind of software I usually have to call it a
house...

Neil

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On Feb 8, 12:27*am, Charles Ellson wrote:

It isn't "technical" - a receiving licence is required to use
apparatus to watch

....or record...

anything that is being currently broadcast over the
air

I believe, for that reason, you need a colour licence if you have a
B&W TV with a video recorder, because the latter is able to record
programmes in colour even if you cannot watch them on the TV attached
to it (presumably because you *could* watch them on another TV, which
itself may not need to be covered by any licence).

Neil

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On Feb 8, 2:06*am, Mizter T wrote:

My point is that the convergence of technology makes this all rather
less clear cut - and there's a good number of people who don't have
conventional televisions but who nonetheless watch television nowadays
- if it's all 'watch again' stuff on iPlayer, 4oD and the like, no
problem, but if it's a live ('as broadcast') TV stream then a TV
Licence is required.

True. And in Germany it was going to be the case (don't know if it
happened or not) that a PC with Internet connection would require a
licence. And it's per "TV" in Germany as well, I believe, not just
per household.

To avoid this silliness, it would make more sense that, within the UK,
such "TV archive" websites required the entry of a valid licence
number before they could be used, if they were to be brought into the
requirement.

Neil

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On Feb 8, 9:12*am, Graeme wrote:

Not strictly true as you need a licence to watch BBC material streamed live
on the net.

Any TV if it is being streamed at the time it is being broadcast, I
understand, not just BBC.

Neil