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Tom Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, CJB wrote:

Recently I obtained a Hillingdon Community Services card which doubles
as a Library user's card. And put it into the same card wallet as my
Oyster card - in which I also keep my bank card. Suddently my Oyster
card stopped working on trains and buses, and even the Heathrow
Connect portable validators wouldn't recognise it - to considerable
embarrasment. The culprit was the Hillingdon Community Services card -
which seems to use the same technology as Oyster and was causing a
confict. An irritation 'cos now I have to keep them in separated. CJB.


My entry card at UCL was the same. I asked my building manager about it,
and he said that it was okay if i tapped my Oyster on the building
reader, as long as i remembered to touch out later. He had a *very* good
straight face.


Hmmm... I wonder if my Highland Council entitlement card would get me
into UCL then. Evil Grin...
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On 01.02.10 11:09, Neil Williams wrote:
On Jan 30, 10:21 am,
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I wonder if TfL will eventually get rid of the magnetic strip tickets in
favour of disposable SmartCards for single journeys or infrequent trips?


That or re-usable tokens (about the size of a gbp2 coin) like used in
Singapore?

Neil


Singapore still uses tokens?
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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:11:06 -0800, Neil Williams wrote:


Or you re-jig your ticket machines such that they can refund deposits?
I'm not convinced there is an issue then.


They did that in Singapore - stations likely to be frequented by
tourists have machines that take the cards back and issue refunds on the
card deposit.

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:47:49 +0000, wrote:

That or re-usable tokens (about the size of a gbp2 coin) like used in
Singapore?

Neil


Singapore still uses tokens?


Nope - 100% smart card. There are vending machines that take the 'single
trip' cards back and refund the card deposit.




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On 01.02.10 12:50, David Cantrell wrote:
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I wonder if TfL will eventually get rid of the magnetic strip tickets in
favour of disposable SmartCards for single journeys or infrequent trips?


They still need to support paper tickets because they're issued all over
the railway system. I have one in my pocket right now for Fort William
to U12.

What's U12?
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On Feb 1, 11:58*pm, "
wrote:

On 01.02.10 12:50, David Cantrell wrote:

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 09:21:19AM +0000, wrote:
I wonder if TfL will eventually get rid of the magnetic strip tickets in
favour of disposable SmartCards for single journeys or infrequent trips?


They still need to support paper tickets because they're issued all over
the railway system. *I have one in my pocket right now for Fort William
to U12.


What's U12?


Underground zones 1&2 - i.e. a destination LU station anywhere within
those zones (which are the two most central zones). The destination
actually appears as "Zone U12" on rail tickets (could also just be
"Zone U1", "Zone U1234", "Zone U1256" etc).
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On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 04:38:04PM -0800, Mizter T wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:58=A0pm, "
wrote:
On 01.02.10 12:50, David Cantrell wrote:
They still need to support paper tickets because they're issued all over
the railway system. =A0I have one in my pocket right now for Fort William
to U12.

What's U12?

Underground zones 1&2 - i.e. a destination LU station anywhere within
those zones (which are the two most central zones). The destination
actually appears as "Zone U12" on rail tickets (could also just be
"Zone U1", "Zone U1234", "Zone U1256" etc).


It appears as "U12* LONDN" on the ticket itself, and "ZONE U12* LONDN"
on the sleeper reservation.

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On 1 Feb, 20:50, Matthew Geier
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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:47:49 +0000, wrote:
That or re-usable tokens (about the size of a gbp2 coin) like used in
Singapore?


Neil


Singapore still uses tokens?


Nope - 100% smart card. There are vending machines that take the 'single
trip' cards back and refund the card deposit.


I wonder what proportion of those cards are surrendered.

Overall, Singapore is a small and disciplined country (really a city
state)...
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On Feb 2, 11:53*am, David Cantrell wrote:

On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 04:38:04PM -0800, Mizter T wrote:

On Feb 1, 11:58pm, "
wrote:


On 01.02.10 12:50, David Cantrell wrote:
They still need to support paper tickets because they're issued all over
the railway system. =A0I have one in my pocket right now for Fort William
to U12.

What's U12?


Underground zones 1&2 - i.e. a destination LU station anywhere within
those zones (which are the two most central zones). The destination
actually appears as "Zone U12" on rail tickets (could also just be
"Zone U1", "Zone U1234", "Zone U1256" etc).


It appears as "U12* LONDN" on the ticket itself, and "ZONE U12* *LONDN"
on the sleeper reservation.


Thanks... I thought I might not have got it quite right (so I guess I
should've probably have kept my mouth quiet!).


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