Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Martin Petrov
writes

I've seen two this morning, both new kind, both destination Lewisham.
one on the upnunder and one at Shadwell.

All the 3 car trains are going to be "new ones", I believe? (prepared to
be told otherwise, of course....!)

The older types are quite capable too, although it may be a policy
decision to use new ones to make a point.

In any event, it's not possible to mix old and new cars in a formation.


And now I've been on one (do I win something?).

I noticed extra crew on board. don't know how long that will last.
Also, announcement before Cutty Sark.

No obvious problems except internal displays not working.

Saw a new 3 car train at Greenwich about 2330 last night but did see
one formed of the old stock when they were doing passenger-less test
operations a couple of months ago.

I'm glad they've gone for variable stopping points at places like
Mudchute northbound where there's only an entrance to the platform at
the southern end.

Anybody witnessed any panicky barging through the carriage at Cutty
Sark yet?

I've seen two this morning, both new kind, both destination Lewisham.
one on the upnunder and one at Shadwell.

I'd like to also add myself to the "3LR spotter" list. Canary Wharf,
pulling out towards Heron Quays, new rolling stock, 9:15-ish.

As with all these things, actually seeing one was something of an anti-
climax. It's a slightly longer version of what I've been getting on for
years.

On Feb 25, 12:05*pm, Martin Petrov
wrote:

I've seen two this morning, both new kind, both destination Lewisham.
one on the upnunder and one at Shadwell.

I'd like to also add myself to the "3LR spotter" list. Canary Wharf,
pulling out towards Heron Quays, new rolling stock, 9:15-ish.

As with all these things, actually seeing one was something of an anti-
climax. It's a slightly longer version of what I've been getting on for
years.

I think the more interesting thing to observe has been what has
already happened, i.e. the platform lengthening and how it has been
done in various places.

That, and observing that one has a bit more breathing space on peak
DLR trains.

On 25 Feb, 09:59, Mudchute wrote:
Saw a new 3 car train at Greenwich about 2330 last night but did see
one formed of the old stock when they were doing passenger-less test
operations a couple of months ago.

I'm glad they've gone for variable stopping points at places like
Mudchute northbound where there's only an entrance to the platform at
the southern end.

Anybody witnessed any panicky barging through the carriage at Cutty
Sark yet?

No. As I was saying, announcement beforehand and extra staff on board
in case.

I got another one this evening; pretty sure it was a different unit
and again the internal displays not working.

This may be some kind of issue.

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:17:26 -0800, Mizter T wrote:

I think the more interesting thing to observe has been what has already
happened, i.e. the platform lengthening and how it has been done in
various places.

That, and observing that one has a bit more breathing space on peak DLR
trains.

Well yes - South Quay's opening and the dive under at West India Quay are
the things that have impressed me the most.

As a daily Stratford - Canary Wharf traveller, the dive under has made a
big difference to getting through the final part of the journey, though
I'd be interested to know when they're intending to put 3 cars on trains
on that branch too - I know Pudding Mill Lane won't be able to handle
them, but having done all the other stations, I'd be shocked if they
weren't intending to roll them out along that line too?

The other improvement that I'd like to see them do is to bring the 5
minute frequency on that section (at least at peak time) so that there's
always a train waiting in Stratford - as it stands, the train comes into
Stratford every 7-8 mins, and there's a scrum of people to get on board
to get a seat - whereas when they had the 5 min frequency, a train would
come into one platform, and sit there while people got on board, and as
the next one pulled in, that one would pull out.

On 26 Feb, 08:37, Martin Petrov
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:17:26 -0800, Mizter T wrote:
I think the more interesting thing to observe has been what has already
happened, i.e. the platform lengthening and how it has been done in
various places.

That, and observing that one has a bit more breathing space on peak DLR
trains.

Well yes - South Quay's opening and the dive under at West India Quay are
the things that have impressed me the most.

As a daily Stratford - Canary Wharf traveller, the dive under has made a
big difference to getting through the final part of the journey, though
I'd be interested to know when they're intending to put 3 cars on trains
on that branch too - I know Pudding Mill Lane won't be able to handle
them, but having done all the other stations, I'd be shocked if they
weren't intending to roll them out along that line too?

The other improvement that I'd like to see them do is to bring the 5
minute frequency on that section (at least at peak time) so that there's
always a train waiting in Stratford - as it stands, the train comes into
Stratford every 7-8 mins, and there's a scrum of people to get on board
to get a seat - whereas when they had the 5 min frequency, a train would
come into one platform, and sit there while people got on board, and as
the next one pulled in, that one would pull out.

There was a document, or was it an MR article? which listed all the
stations coded by long from the start, extended and SDO. I am sure
that the SDO stations included some not on that route.

My impression was that the whole of the DLR is capable of taking the
long trains one way or another, whether or not the service actually
runs.

Cutty Sark is an obviously well-know station that couldn't be extended
and they use SDO.

In message
, at
11:13:46 on Thu, 25 Feb 2010, MIG
remarked:
I got another one this evening; pretty sure it was a different unit
and again the internal displays not working.

I went to South Quay (and back) today. A few observations:

At Bank there was a handwritten sign saying something like "use the
whole length of the platform". Which is fine, but when a 2-car train
arrives, what use am I supposed to be putting the remaining 1/3 to?

On the way out saw no new trains.

The old one I was on, lurched a lot. For example, we crawled towards
Heron Quays and as the front of the train reached the platform it
accelerated quite hard, then immediately started braking. Throughout, it
seemed to be regularly hitting some kind of 'speed limiter',
accelerating then suddenly cutting power.

When I got to South Quay I went downstairs at the west end of the
station and turned east (towards the water). Touched out, then found
myself in a dead end. Had to go back some way, then climb over a large
"kerbside" to get onto the road.

On the way back caught a new 3-car train. Saw several other new trains,
all 2-car. When going down the tunnels to Bank station, once again there
was quite a bit of "hunting" in the drive system. Appeared not to be
able to make its mind up between braking, coasting and even perhaps
applying power. Is the braking regen?
--
Roland Perry

A lot of site
clearance has taken place near Pudding Mill Lane - I assume for
Crossrail tunnel bores and DLR station moving.

The cleared space is for Olympics' parking (it was cleaned in
2007-2008). I'd imagine it will be reused for Crossrail after 2012.

I hope they also got rid of industrial cleaning company that was
located right next to Pudding Mill Station (it was NOT marked for
demolition on initial places distributed to locals in 2007) -
otherwise Olympics Park will smell of freshly rotting cooking fat.

In message , at 22:53:53 on
Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Paul Corfield remarked:

Well it seems I had a similar idea to Mr Perry.

The DLR ride was incidental to my trip to see a client. Last time I
went, Bank Station (DLR) was closed so I had to use Jubilee Line (+walk)
instead; but DLR is my preferred method.

A lot of site clearance has taken place near Pudding Mill Lane

You can also see (from the DLR trains) building work started in the
vicinity of the Crossrail Station at Canary Wharf.
--
Roland Perry