Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?

Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW
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Hello Kat , on Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:34:56
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Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?

Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW

Prehaps the bus that was suppoed to that route was in for serviceing
and so they used that one instead?

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:34:56 +0000, Kat
wrote:

Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?


It''s painted in the dark green livery which was used by London
Transport's country bus services, as they were, before they were spun
off into a separate company in 1970. Until then London Transport's
bus services extended to places like Reigate and St Albans and beyond.
When London Transport came under the control of the GLC it made more
sense for the country services to be transferred to a new subsidiary
the (publicly owned) National Bus Company.

Quite a few Routemasters were originally used in the country area, so
presumably this one has been painted in its original colours.

Martin

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:23:30 +0000, Martin Rich
wrote:

Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?


It''s painted in the dark green livery which was used by London
Transport's country bus services, as they were, before they were spun
off into a separate company in 1970. Until then London Transport's
bus services extended to places like Reigate and St Albans and beyond.
When London Transport came under the control of the GLC it made more
sense for the country services to be transferred to a new subsidiary
the (publicly owned) National Bus Company.

Quite a few Routemasters were originally used in the country area, so
presumably this one has been painted in its original colours.

It's one of the JJD reg RMLs, I think 2456. (J)JD was once listed as a
West Ham vehicle registration, and I think it originally ran out on an
East London garage (BW? U? WH even?) on routes such as the 8, 15, 25.
Several red RMLs were transferred to the Country area (or LCBS, the
successor companies) in about the early 70s. I'm fairly certain I
remember this bus on the 441 route in the mid-70s. In those days they
had an odd green knob on a spring attached to them, a bit like a tube
car strap handle, presumable to help drivers judge where the kerb was.

"Kat" wrote in message
...
Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?

Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW
--
Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein

It's an RMC (RouteMaster Country) bus. I believe it's based at Upton Park
garage, but am not 100% on that. As many will know, the traditional London
Buses are being phased out over the coming months, the 15, 11 and 23 have
already lost all the RM's. There have been some excellent "last night"
celebrations on each route, with some real gems for enthusiasts and
photographers - early RM's in original condition, RT's, RTW's and RMC's have
all been seen in recent weeks.

The one you saw Kat is ticketed to run in normal passenger service, for most
of this year it was on the 15.

HTH

RayB


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"RayB" wrote in message
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"Kat" wrote in message
...
Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?

Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW
--
Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein

It's an RMC (RouteMaster Country) bus. I believe it's based at Upton Park
garage, but am not 100% on that. As many will know, the traditional London
Buses are being phased out over the coming months, the 15, 11 and 23 have
already lost all the RM's. There have been some excellent "last night"
celebrations on each route, with some real gems for enthusiasts and
photographers - early RM's in original condition, RT's, RTW's and RMC's
have
all been seen in recent weeks.

The one you saw Kat is ticketed to run in normal passenger service, for
most
of this year it was on the 15.

HTH

RayB


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as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on
the 15 have all been sold.
2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence why it
was chosen to be painted green.

Paul

In message , RayB
writes
It's an RMC (RouteMaster Country) bus. I believe it's based at Upton Park
garage, but am not 100% on that. As many will know, the traditional London
Buses are being phased out over the coming months, the 15, 11 and 23 have
already lost all the RM's. There have been some excellent "last night"
celebrations on each route, with some real gems for enthusiasts and
photographers - early RM's in original condition, RT's, RTW's and RMC's have
all been seen in recent weeks.

The one you saw Kat is ticketed to run in normal passenger service, for most
of this year it was on the 15.

Thanks for the information, Ray
(Haven't seen you on the e/b at MIE for a while now)
--
Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein

In message , Paul Dredge
writes
as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on
the 15 have all been sold.
2456 was new as a green bus in the old County Department of LT, hence why it
was chosen to be painted green.

Thanks.
You mentioned that the one I saw and the others have been sold; any idea
where they might be going?
--
Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein

In message , Ken Wheatley
writes
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:23:30 +0000, Martin Rich
wrote:

Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?


It''s painted in the dark green livery which was used by London
Transport's country bus services, as they were, before they were spun
off into a separate company in 1970. Until then London Transport's
bus services extended to places like Reigate and St Albans and beyond.
When London Transport came under the control of the GLC it made more
sense for the country services to be transferred to a new subsidiary
the (publicly owned) National Bus Company.

Quite a few Routemasters were originally used in the country area, so
presumably this one has been painted in its original colours.

It's one of the JJD reg RMLs, I think 2456. (J)JD was once listed as a
West Ham vehicle registration, and I think it originally ran out on an
East London garage (BW? U? WH even?) on routes such as the 8, 15, 25.
Several red RMLs were transferred to the Country area (or LCBS, the
successor companies) in about the early 70s. I'm fairly certain I
remember this bus on the 441 route in the mid-70s. In those days they
had an odd green knob on a spring attached to them, a bit like a tube
car strap handle, presumable to help drivers judge where the kerb was.

Thanks,
Is BW the garage in Fairfield Rd, E3 by any chance?
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Kat Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea - Robert A. Heinlein

"Paul Dredge" wrote in message

Dark green and looked kind of older than others on that route..
Anyone know what that's about?
Seen near St Pauls (station) this morning BTW

Older than a routemaster! Must have had horses on the front?

There have been some excellent "last night" celebrations on each route,
with some real gems for enthusiasts and photographers - early RM's in
original condition, RT's, RTW's and RMC's

So these dinosaurs are finally getting the chop, welcome to the 1970's.!

as someone has already painted out it is RML2456 that was painted green as
part of the "celebrations" for the opo conversion of the 15 and now operates
on the 8 (until that goes opo next year) The RMC's that used to operate on
the 15 have all been sold. 2456 was new as a green bus in the old County
Department of LT, hence why it
was chosen to be painted green.

So was the 8 a country area route then or am I missing something?

Duncan Robinson



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