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On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter Masson" wrote:
AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines, while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL, As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be resignalled). PhilD -- |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD
wrote this:- AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines, while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL, As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by NR That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction power too. No idea about the other bits. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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On Apr 20, 10:31*am, amogles wrote:
On 20 Apr., 11:12, D7666 wrote: You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels... Chickens and eggs? The choice of yellow may have been influenced by the need to operate over NR tracks, and not just the obvious tube routes, but occasionally, in the past, on other jobs. LU service trains have traditionally been yellow, not just on the front ends but all over. See for example the tunnel cleaning train. I dispute that. They were traditonally maroon or grey or green. Yellow is relatively new, I'd be 99% sure they never used yellow until well after BR started. DL81 -83 came to Lu in ?1969 ? 1970 ? and they were green not a shade of a yellow panel on them. Yes, some have been yellow for a long time now, but ''traditional'' no. -- Nick |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT), D7666
wrote: On Apr 20, 10:31*am, amogles wrote: On 20 Apr., 11:12, D7666 wrote: You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels... LU service trains have traditionally been yellow, not just on the front ends but all over. See for example the tunnel cleaning train. I dispute that. They were traditonally maroon or grey or green. Yellow is relatively new, I'd be 99% sure they never used yellow until well after BR started. DL81 -83 came to Lu in ?1969 ? 1970 ? and they were green not a shade of a yellow panel on them. The battery Locos have recently been mentioned on a North American model group as a counter claim to a Magazine description which reckons that the battery Loco has just been invented over there. The Wikipedia link I read from there has an unverified claim that the maroon colour was using paint from the Steam fleet. Not sure if they mean there was surplus paint or that the colour was chosen to match. G.Harman |
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On 20/04/2010 13:41, PhilD wrote:
On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter wrote: AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow& Wealdstone, East Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines, while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL, As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be resignalled). PhilD -- NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they? IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate placing rolling stock in position. |
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On Apr 20, 9:54*pm, "
wrote: NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they? IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate placing rolling stock in position. There's a couple of odd-hours Waterloo-Wimbledon (and beyond, and vice versa) services routed via Point Pleasant Junction/East Putney. The line is also used for ECS moves, diversionary moves, and for access to/ from Wimbledon depot. PhilD -- |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:59:48 +0100, David Hansen
wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD wrote this:- AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines, while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL, As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by NR That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction power too. No idea about the other bits. ? IIRC the Wimbledon branch was transferred to LU on the same day as the Drain. |
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On 20 Apr, 19:46, D7666 wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:31*am, amogles wrote: On 20 Apr., 11:12, D7666 wrote: You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels... Chickens and eggs? The choice of yellow may have been influenced by the need to operate over NR tracks, and not just the obvious tube routes, but occasionally, in the past, on other jobs. LU service trains have traditionally been yellow, not just on the front ends but all over. See for example the tunnel cleaning train. I dispute that. They were traditonally maroon or grey or green. Yellow is relatively new, I'd be 99% sure they *never used yellow until well after BR started. DL81 -83 came to Lu in ?1969 ? 1970 ? and they were green not a shade of a yellow panel on them. Yes, some have been yellow for a long time now, but ''traditional'' no. -- Nick Here is one of their departmental vehicles, an Electic Sleet locomotive in Acton Works in 1981 in the marron livery http://tonyhunter2814.fotopic.net/p3144135.html Tony |
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"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... IIRC the Wimbledon branch was transferred to LU on the same day as the Drain. I'd suggest ownership is basically all that was transferred. The power supplies and signalling are still effectively 'subcontracted' to NR. I mentioned a few days ago that there is a project underway to separate the power supplies to allow the NR voltage to be increased, and regenerative braking to be enabled. You'd have to assume SSR resignalling might take the signalling inhouse as well, eventually. Paul S |
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PhilD wrote:
On Apr 20, 9:54 pm, " wrote: NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they? IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate placing rolling stock in position. There's a couple of odd-hours Waterloo-Wimbledon (and beyond, and vice versa) services routed via Point Pleasant Junction/East Putney. The line is also used for ECS moves, diversionary moves, and for access to/ from Wimbledon depot. AFAICT there are 3 passenger services, and about 10 ECS moves in the diagrams for a normal weekday, which is more than I expected. I think there are 4 or 5 down direction ECS moves after the morning peak, so I imagine daytime travellers on the District will be familiar with the main line trains passing through. Passenger services for those interested: 0454 Basingstoke to Waterloo 0042 (FX) Waterloo to Strawberry Hill 0105 Waterloo to Southampton Paul S |
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