On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter Masson" wrote:
AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be
resignalled).

PhilD

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD
wrote this:-

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR

That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction
power too. No idea about the other bits.


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On Apr 20, 10:31*am, amogles wrote:
On 20 Apr., 11:12, D7666 wrote:



You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels...

Chickens and eggs? The choice of yellow may have been influenced by
the need to operate over NR tracks, and not just the obvious tube
routes, but occasionally, in the past, on other jobs.

LU service trains have traditionally been yellow, not just on the
front ends but all over. See for example the tunnel cleaning train.

I dispute that.

They were traditonally maroon or grey or green.

Yellow is relatively new, I'd be 99% sure they never used yellow
until well after BR started. DL81 -83 came to Lu in ?1969 ? 1970 ? and
they were green not a shade of a yellow panel on them.

Yes, some have been yellow for a long time now, but ''traditional''
no.

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Nick

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT), D7666
wrote:

On Apr 20, 10:31*am, amogles wrote:
On 20 Apr., 11:12, D7666 wrote:



You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels...



LU service trains have traditionally been yellow, not just on the
front ends but all over. See for example the tunnel cleaning train.

I dispute that.

They were traditonally maroon or grey or green.

Yellow is relatively new, I'd be 99% sure they never used yellow
until well after BR started. DL81 -83 came to Lu in ?1969 ? 1970 ? and
they were green not a shade of a yellow panel on them.

The battery Locos have recently been mentioned on a North American
model group as a counter claim to a Magazine description which reckons
that the battery Loco has just been invented over there.
The Wikipedia link I read from there has an unverified claim that the
maroon colour was using paint from the Steam fleet. Not sure if they
mean there was surplus paint or that the colour was chosen to match.


G.Harman

On 20/04/2010 13:41, PhilD wrote:
On 20 Apr, 12:49, "Peter wrote:
AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow& Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR (presumably this will change whenever Wimbledon needs to be
resignalled).

PhilD

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NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.

On Apr 20, 9:54*pm, "
wrote:
NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.

There's a couple of odd-hours Waterloo-Wimbledon (and beyond, and vice
versa) services routed via Point Pleasant Junction/East Putney. The
line is also used for ECS moves, diversionary moves, and for access to/
from Wimbledon depot.

PhilD

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:59:48 +0100, David Hansen
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:41:17 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be PhilD
wrote this:-

AIUI, of the jointly used lines, Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone, East
Putney to Wimbledon, and Gunnersbury to Richmond are Network Rail lines,
while Harrow South Junction to Amersham is LUL,


As I understand it, the Wimbledon bit is now LU, though signalled by
NR

That is my understanding too. They also presumably supply traction
power too. No idea about the other bits.
?
IIRC the Wimbledon branch was transferred to LU on the same day as the
Drain.

On 20 Apr, 19:46, D7666 wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:31*am, amogles wrote:

On 20 Apr., 11:12, D7666 wrote:

You may have noticed LU's battery maintenance locos do have yellow panels...

Chickens and eggs? The choice of yellow may have been influenced by
the need to operate over NR tracks, and not just the obvious tube
routes, but occasionally, in the past, on other jobs.

LU service trains have traditionally been yellow, not just on the
front ends but all over. See for example the tunnel cleaning train.

I dispute that.

They were traditonally maroon or grey or green.

Yellow is relatively new, I'd be 99% sure they *never used yellow
until well after BR started. DL81 -83 came to Lu in ?1969 ? 1970 ? and
they were green not a shade of a yellow panel on them.

Yes, some have been yellow for a long time now, but ''traditional''
no.

--
Nick

Here is one of their departmental vehicles, an Electic Sleet
locomotive in Acton Works in 1981 in the marron livery

http://tonyhunter2814.fotopic.net/p3144135.html

Tony

"Charles Ellson" wrote in message
...

IIRC the Wimbledon branch was transferred to LU on the same day as the
Drain.

I'd suggest ownership is basically all that was transferred. The power
supplies and signalling are still effectively 'subcontracted' to NR. I
mentioned a few days ago that there is a project underway to separate the
power supplies to allow the NR voltage to be increased, and regenerative
braking to be enabled. You'd have to assume SSR resignalling might take the
signalling inhouse as well, eventually.

Paul S

PhilD wrote:
On Apr 20, 9:54 pm, "
wrote:
NR trains don't normally run from Putney to Wimbledon, though. Don't
they?

IIRC, NR trains went through there on occasion just to facilitate
placing rolling stock in position.

There's a couple of odd-hours Waterloo-Wimbledon (and beyond, and vice
versa) services routed via Point Pleasant Junction/East Putney. The
line is also used for ECS moves, diversionary moves, and for access
to/ from Wimbledon depot.

AFAICT there are 3 passenger services, and about 10 ECS moves in the
diagrams for a normal weekday, which is more than I expected. I think there
are 4 or 5 down direction ECS moves after the morning peak, so I imagine
daytime travellers on the District will be familiar with the main line
trains passing through.

Passenger services for those interested:
0454 Basingstoke to Waterloo
0042 (FX) Waterloo to Strawberry Hill
0105 Waterloo to Southampton

Paul S