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The Wikipedia link I read from there has an unverified claim that the
maroon colour was using paint from the Steam fleet. Not sure if they
mean there was surplus paint or that the colour was chosen to match.

Maroon before the war, grey during the war, and maroon afterwards until
the early 80s, maybe? Maroon was the general "locomotives" colour.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:50:22AM +0100, Recliner wrote:

Talking of which, I came across this YouTube video of an unusual rail
tour, with LU battery locos topping and tailing Mk2 Gatwick Express
stock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpibombER74

Wow!

Do you know if that tour included any of the cut n cover sections? Or
are mk 2s too fat to fit?

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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:50:22AM +0100, Recliner wrote:

Talking of which, I came across this YouTube video of an unusual rail
tour, with LU battery locos topping and tailing Mk2 Gatwick Express
stock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpibombER74

Wow!

Do you know if that tour included any of the cut n cover sections? Or
are mk 2s too fat to fit?

I don't know about that tour, but I think there have been others that
have taken old BR stock through the sub-surface tunnels (doesn't LU own
a few carriages?). Remember that A Stock is wider than most (all?) BR
stock.

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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:50:22AM +0100, Recliner wrote:

Talking of which, I came across this YouTube video of an unusual rail
tour, with LU battery locos topping and tailing Mk2 Gatwick Express
stock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpibombER74

Wow!

Do you know if that tour included any of the cut n cover sections? Or
are mk 2s too fat to fit?

ISTR the tour was something like Wimbledon to Wimbledon via Edgware Road and
Tower Hill (maybe not in that order) so, yes.

DAS

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 02:34:55PM +0100, Recliner wrote:
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:50:22AM +0100, Recliner wrote:
Talking of which, I came across this YouTube video of an unusual rail
tour, with LU battery locos topping and tailing Mk2 Gatwick Express
stock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpibombER74
Wow!
Do you know if that tour included any of the cut n cover sections? Or
are mk 2s too fat to fit?
I don't know about that tour, but I think there have been others that
have taken old BR stock through the sub-surface tunnels (doesn't LU own
a few carriages?). Remember that A Stock is wider than most (all?) BR
stock.

Ah, but BR stock is generally longer, so wouldn't be able to get round
curves that the dinky little LUL trains can - mk2s are 19.6m, A stock is
16.something.

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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 02:34:55PM +0100, Recliner wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:50:22AM +0100, Recliner wrote:
Talking of which, I came across this YouTube video of an unusual
rail tour, with LU battery locos topping and tailing Mk2 Gatwick
Express stock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpibombER74
Wow!
Do you know if that tour included any of the cut n cover sections?
Or are mk 2s too fat to fit?
I don't know about that tour, but I think there have been others that
have taken old BR stock through the sub-surface tunnels (doesn't LU
own a few carriages?). Remember that A Stock is wider than most
(all?) BR stock.

Ah, but BR stock is generally longer, so wouldn't be able to get round
curves that the dinky little LUL trains can - mk2s are 19.6m, A stock
is 16.something.

Yes, good point -- some parts of the Circle line would probably be
prohibited for that reason.

On 22/04/2010 00:30, David A Stocks wrote:
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 09:50:22AM +0100, Recliner wrote:

Talking of which, I came across this YouTube video of an unusual rail
tour, with LU battery locos topping and tailing Mk2 Gatwick Express
stock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpibombER74

Wow!

Do you know if that tour included any of the cut n cover sections? Or
are mk 2s too fat to fit?

ISTR the tour was something like Wimbledon to Wimbledon via Edgware Road
and Tower Hill (maybe not in that order) so, yes.

DAS


I wonder if there will be any more Vickers-hauled rail tours on the
Metropolitan line.

Hello!

On 20.04.2010 08:31, Neil Williams wrote:
On Apr 19, 11:50 pm, "Paul
wrote:

It has been suggested previously it is because LU do not normally allow
maintenance staff access to the live railway.

Though I imagine red is almost as visible. Several European railways
including SBB, OeBB and DB use it.

AFAIK, the only networks on the continent requiring a specific front end
color are the Netherlands (white or yellow) and Italy (red). In Germany,
you are free to run completely black locos such as

http://www.railcolor.net/index.php?n...age&position=7

Johannes.

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:02:17 +0200, Johannes Picht
wrote:

AFAIK, the only networks on the continent requiring a specific front end
color are the Netherlands (white or yellow) and Italy (red). In Germany,
you are free to run completely black locos such as

In the UK, black is permitted (and usual) for steam locomotives. I
assume that's because of grandfather rights, but perhaps also because
you'd hear them a mile off anyway!

Neil
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On 29 Apr, 21:35, Neil Williams
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:02:17 +0200, Johannes Picht

wrote:
AFAIK, the only networks on the continent requiring a specific front end
color are the Netherlands (white or yellow) and Italy (red). In Germany,
you are free to run completely black locos such as

In the UK, black is permitted (and usual) for steam locomotives. *I
assume that's because of grandfather rights, but perhaps also because
you'd hear them a mile off anyway!

Neil

I was going to suggest that steam locos usually had/have red buffer
beams ...
but then I remembered that the LNER A4 streamliners don't.