On 28 June, 01:49, Railist wrote:
On 29 Apr, 09:36, wrote:





On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:19:35 -0700 (PDT)

wrote:
Posting from Arnos Grove.

Got Cockfosters Station at 0757, made a silly error in not boarding
the train at Platform 1 where the signal was green as I thought I
wouldn't have time to get from concourse to platform
in time : it actually waited 3 minutes on a green signal before
departing (I didn't make it) and boy did that cost me. Next train left
so soon after I didn't have time to get from P1 to P4 so left about
0803. It's now 0819 and just at Arnos Grove.

"Good Service"

Since I no longer commute by tube I feel it is only proper to hand over
the official UTL Piccadilly Line Sufferers Baton to you. I wish you as
few "a good service is running" , "we'll remain here to regulating the
service", "signal failure at arnos grove" and "this train will be terminating
here" as possible.

Happy travels! Or should that be travelcards?

B2003

And so it continues...

It's currently 01:36 and I have just got off the Nightbus from Kings
Cross (N91). Why did I get the nightbus?
I waited on the Eastbound Piccadilly Line platform at Kings Cross for
at least 15 minutes. The electronic display was blank, however this is
not unusual
as there were "Minor Delays" and of course I have learned that minor
delays on the Piccadilly Line are a special kind of delay, and 15
minutes is indeed, minor. No staff on the platform. After another 6 or
7 minutes a fellow passenger presses the Help panel on the platforms
to ask when the next train will be. The voice - via speakerphone -
says "Dunno, but I do know when the last train is". Shortly after, an
announcement is made the next train at Kings Cross is 25 MINUTES AWAY.
No apology, no explanation. A groan goes up from the passengers on the
platform... and I just know what the display upstairs will say.

You guessed it - MINOR DELAYS.

Last week, I sat on a train at Arnos Grove and after five minutes was
told "The train on the adjacent platform will be leaving first".
Myself and the other passengers duly moved over to the other train and
sat there, and after five minutes were told "The train on the adjacent
platform will be leaving first". So we traipse back onto the train we
just left, and after a minute the train leaves. *"Good Service"

I can't recall any journey I have made on this line where I haven't
had a delay somewhere en route.... several times the announcements at
Cockfosters of when trains will leave haven't worked, and it is
literally pot luck as to what train will leave first. I played that
game again last week, and the train sitting at the green signal was
the last one to leave, after numerous other trains arrived and
departed. My driver did enjoy their coffee, I saw that.

I have been late every day this week - I just can't win with this
friggin' line. On Friday morning, I left 30 minutes early and reached
Cockfosters where there was a points failure. They were advising
people to take the Bus 299 to Oakwood - except, er, during the day
there are no buses to Oakwood from Cockfosters.

As soon as my lease is up, I am scampering back to South London and
the relative reliability of a Southern service.

Moving to Cockfosters was always going to be difficult - but the
knowledge of having a direct tube service to central London made the
move easier. What a shame that the Piccadilly Line is the thing that
has made me give up on this part of the world.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One other thing: between Mansion House and Turnpike Lane, there is
this "whoosh" noise and the front carriage receives a sprinkling of
fine dust. Any idea why this happens?

Piccadilly Line still continues to disappoint - they seem to get away
with a lot under the "good service" umbrella.

On 18/08/2010 17:11, Railist wrote:
On 28 June, 01:49, wrote:
On 29 Apr, 09:36, wrote:





On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:19:35 -0700 (PDT)

wrote:
Posting from Arnos Grove.

Got Cockfosters Station at 0757, made a silly error in not boarding
the train at Platform 1 where the signal was green as I thought I
wouldn't have time to get from concourse to platform
in time : it actually waited 3 minutes on a green signal before
departing (I didn't make it) and boy did that cost me. Next train left
so soon after I didn't have time to get from P1 to P4 so left about
0803. It's now 0819 and just at Arnos Grove.

"Good Service"

Since I no longer commute by tube I feel it is only proper to hand over
the official UTL Piccadilly Line Sufferers Baton to you. I wish you as
few "a good service is running" , "we'll remain here to regulating the
service", "signal failure at arnos grove" and "this train will be terminating
here" as possible.

Happy travels! Or should that be travelcards?

B2003

And so it continues...

It's currently 01:36 and I have just got off the Nightbus from Kings
Cross (N91). Why did I get the nightbus?
I waited on the Eastbound Piccadilly Line platform at Kings Cross for
at least 15 minutes. The electronic display was blank, however this is
not unusual
as there were "Minor Delays" and of course I have learned that minor
delays on the Piccadilly Line are a special kind of delay, and 15
minutes is indeed, minor. No staff on the platform. After another 6 or
7 minutes a fellow passenger presses the Help panel on the platforms
to ask when the next train will be. The voice - via speakerphone -
says "Dunno, but I do know when the last train is". Shortly after, an
announcement is made the next train at Kings Cross is 25 MINUTES AWAY.
No apology, no explanation. A groan goes up from the passengers on the
platform... and I just know what the display upstairs will say.

You guessed it - MINOR DELAYS.

Last week, I sat on a train at Arnos Grove and after five minutes was
told "The train on the adjacent platform will be leaving first".
Myself and the other passengers duly moved over to the other train and
sat there, and after five minutes were told "The train on the adjacent
platform will be leaving first". So we traipse back onto the train we
just left, and after a minute the train leaves. "Good Service"

I can't recall any journey I have made on this line where I haven't
had a delay somewhere en route.... several times the announcements at
Cockfosters of when trains will leave haven't worked, and it is
literally pot luck as to what train will leave first. I played that
game again last week, and the train sitting at the green signal was
the last one to leave, after numerous other trains arrived and
departed. My driver did enjoy their coffee, I saw that.

I have been late every day this week - I just can't win with this
friggin' line. On Friday morning, I left 30 minutes early and reached
Cockfosters where there was a points failure. They were advising
people to take the Bus 299 to Oakwood - except, er, during the day
there are no buses to Oakwood from Cockfosters.

As soon as my lease is up, I am scampering back to South London and
the relative reliability of a Southern service.

Moving to Cockfosters was always going to be difficult - but the
knowledge of having a direct tube service to central London made the
move easier. What a shame that the Piccadilly Line is the thing that
has made me give up on this part of the world.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One other thing: between Mansion House and Turnpike Lane, there is
this "whoosh" noise and the front carriage receives a sprinkling of
fine dust. Any idea why this happens?

Piccadilly Line still continues to disappoint - they seem to get away
with a lot under the "good service" umbrella.

Possibly entering a different section of tunnel with a different structure.

Railist wrote on 18 August 2010 17:11:33 ...

One other thing: between Mansion House and Turnpike Lane, there is
this "whoosh" noise and the front carriage receives a sprinkling of
fine dust. Any idea why this happens?

It's because they drove the new tunnel to Mansion House a bit too close
to the Bank of England vaults. It's just gold dust. Nothing to worry
about.
--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

On 18/08/2010 21:42, Richard J. wrote:
Railist wrote on 18 August 2010 17:11:33 ...

One other thing: between Mansion House and Turnpike Lane, there is
this "whoosh" noise and the front carriage receives a sprinkling of
fine dust. Any idea why this happens?

It's because they drove the new tunnel to Mansion House a bit too close
to the Bank of England vaults. It's just gold dust. Nothing to worry about.

I think the OP means between Manor House and Turnpike Lane as Mansion
House is on the Circle and District Lines and rather a distance away.

I thought that the Circle and District ran under Cannon Street between
Monument and Mansion House -- also a relative distance from Bank of
England vaults.

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
Railist wrote:
Piccadilly Line still continues to disappoint - they seem to get away
with a lot under the "good service" umbrella.

They just announce "good service" as a default automated announcement whether
there is a good service or not. They really do treat commuters as idiots.
Just make sure you always claim your money back if the service stuffed up
yet again. If everybody did it (I suspect only a minority do) then the
hole in their pockets would soon persuade them to get their fingers out
of their arses and sort the line out.

B2003

On Aug 18, 10:48*pm, "
wrote:
On 18/08/2010 21:42, Richard J. wrote:

Railist wrote on 18 August 2010 17:11:33 ...

One other thing: between Mansion House and Turnpike Lane, there is
this "whoosh" noise and the front carriage receives a sprinkling of
fine dust. Any idea why this happens?

It's because they drove the new tunnel to Mansion House a bit too close
to the Bank of England vaults. It's just gold dust. Nothing to worry about.

I think the OP means between Manor House and Turnpike Lane as Mansion
House is on the Circle and District Lines and rather a distance away.

I thought that the Circle and District ran under Cannon Street between
Monument and Mansion House -- also a relative distance from Bank of
England vaults.

Haha! Yes I meant Manor House....

It's very noticable at the moment, the dust...

On Aug 19, 4:33*pm, Railist wrote:
On Aug 18, 10:48*pm, "
wrote:





On 18/08/2010 21:42, Richard J. wrote:

Railist wrote on 18 August 2010 17:11:33 ....

One other thing: between Mansion House and Turnpike Lane, there is
this "whoosh" noise and the front carriage receives a sprinkling of
fine dust. Any idea why this happens?

It's because they drove the new tunnel to Mansion House a bit too close
to the Bank of England vaults. It's just gold dust. Nothing to worry about.

I think the OP means between Manor House and Turnpike Lane as Mansion
House is on the Circle and District Lines and rather a distance away.

I thought that the Circle and District ran under Cannon Street between
Monument and Mansion House -- also a relative distance from Bank of
England vaults.

Haha! Yes I meant Manor House....

It's very noticable at the moment, the dust...

There is a ventilation shaft between Manor House and Turnpike Lane so
that accounts for the 'whoosh'. As the dust you mention never ends up
in my cab the only thing that I think it can be is dust forced through
the ventilations fans in the roof of the train

upinthesky wrote:
On Aug 19, 4:33*pm, Railist wrote:
It's very noticable at the moment, the dust...

There is a ventilation shaft between Manor House and Turnpike Lane so
that accounts for the 'whoosh'. As the dust you mention never ends up
in my cab the only thing that I think it can be is dust forced through
the ventilations fans in the roof of the train


As you approach a ventilation shaft, the air in the running tunnel is
being forced along (by fans) in the same direction as the train. As
you pass the shaft, there is an abrupt change, in that the air outside
the train is now being forced along by fans in the opposite direction.

The sudden change to air that is coming at the train in the opposite
direction is the cause of the 'whoosh'. If that air is dust-laden, as
it usually is, that is the reason for the appearance of dust in the
train at that point.