Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

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On 13/06/2010 16:00, wrote:
Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

Yes. It definitely happened at a Central London station in the last 10
years, and all of the signs had to be covered up with temporary ones
specifying the other direction. I can't remember where or when, or even
whether I saw it personally or just saw the pictures in Underground News.

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" writes

On the Piccadilly line at least that can happen at Oakwood, Kings Cross,
Hyde Park Corner, Hammersmith, Northfields, Hounslow Central, Hatton
Cross, Heathrow T123, South Harrow and Rayners Lane.

Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

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District + H&C (my patch)...cont.:

Bromley-by-Bow....EW
Plaistow (disregarding Bay road)...EW
Dagenham East (disregarding Bay road)... EW
Hornchurch.....EW








Embankment (District) - if turned west to east.

South Ken (District) - if turned west to east.

West Ken (District) - if turned east to west.

High Street Ken (Circle) - if turned outer rail to inner rail

Highbury & Islington - if turning south to north. *Ditto for Warren
Street.

Piccadilly Circus (Bakerloo) - if turning south to north.

Charing Cross (Northern) - if turning south to north

Paddington (Bakerloo) if turning south to north.

I'm sure there are many. many more on the LU network. *I've done the
Victoria Line ones and I think Picc Circus on the Bakerloo line. I don't
recall doing the others although many of them have been scheduled during
engineering works.

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Paul C

On 13 June, 17:51, explorette wrote:
District + H&C (my patch)...cont.:

Bromley-by-Bow....EW
Plaistow (disregarding Bay road)...EW
Dagenham East (disregarding Bay road)... EW
Hornchurch.....EW





Embankment (District) - if turned west to east.

South Ken (District) - if turned west to east.

West Ken (District) - if turned east to west.

High Street Ken (Circle) - if turned outer rail to inner rail

Highbury & Islington - if turning south to north. *Ditto for Warren
Street.

Piccadilly Circus (Bakerloo) - if turning south to north.

Charing Cross (Northern) - if turning south to north

Paddington (Bakerloo) if turning south to north.

I'm sure there are many. many more on the LU network. *I've done the
Victoria Line ones and I think Picc Circus on the Bakerloo line. I don't
recall doing the others although many of them have been scheduled during
engineering works.

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Paul C-

For some reason I interpreted the question to mean places where the
same station could be used to reverse trains in opposite directions at
the same time, but not continuing through for some reason.

It was done at Island Gardens on the DLR when one track at a time was
being worked on at Cutty Sark, but that was a very special
arrangement.

There are a few places on the Central where it ought to be possible:
North Acton, White City, Leytonstone, Woodford, Hainault (of course).

On the Northern, I think Golders Green. On the Piccadilly, Arnos
Grove.

These are all places were trains do terminate sometimes, but not
usually in both directions.

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writes

On the Northern, I think Golders Green. On the Piccadilly, Arnos
Grove.

Ah but there are 3 roads at Arnos. The OP asked about:

"eastbound" platform of a two-platform station, pick-up intending
"westbound" passengers for the next departure whilst still on the
"eastbound" platform then head "westbound"

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On 13 June, 20:32, Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote:
In message
, MIG
writes

On the Northern, I think Golders Green. *On the Piccadilly, Arnos
Grove.

Ah but there are 3 roads at Arnos. *The OP asked about:

"eastbound" platform of a two-platform station, pick-up intending
"westbound" passengers for the next departure whilst still on the
"eastbound" platform then head "westbound"

OK; if it's down to stations with only two through tracks that could
reverse trains in opposite directions at the same time, then I don't
suppose there are many.

It might come down to just Woodford then (there's a bay platform too,
but let's assume it's being used for stabling and isn't available).

On 13/06/2010 16:00, wrote:
Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

I've "done" such a move at King's Cross St. Pancras (Met) in the past
few years. Westbound trains terminating in the Westbound platform, then
gaining the Eastbound line via a crossover just off the East end of the
platform.

If memory serves, it's also possible to have a "wrong road" move from
the Eastbound platform at Moorgate (Met), though I'm not sure whether
that counts for the purposes of your question, given the two bay platforms.

Cheers,

Barry

On 13 June, 22:09, Barry Salter wrote:
On 13/06/2010 16:00, wrote:

Are there ever occasions during planned or unplanned service
disruption where an LU *train heading say "eastbound" will require to
finish its journey in the "eastbound" platform of a two-platform
station, pick-up intending "westbound" passengers for the next
departure whilst still on the "eastbound" platform then head
"westbound" on the "eastbound" line in order to access a crossover to
the "westbound" line?

I've "done" such a move at King's Cross St. Pancras (Met) in the past
few years. Westbound trains terminating in the Westbound platform, then
gaining the Eastbound line via a crossover just off the East end of the
platform.

If memory serves, it's also possible to have a "wrong road" move from
the Eastbound platform at Moorgate (Met), though I'm not sure whether
that counts for the purposes of your question, given the two bay platforms.

There is a trailing crossover there.

Only Woodford seems to have trailing crossovers at both ends, although
I suppose Lambeth North and maybe Hatton Cross or something that way
have a trailing crossover before the next station in both directions.

In message
, MIG
writes

I've "done" such a move at King's Cross St. Pancras (Met) in the past
few years. Westbound trains terminating in the Westbound platform, then
gaining the Eastbound line via a crossover just off the East end of the
platform.

If memory serves, it's also possible to have a "wrong road" move from
the Eastbound platform at Moorgate (Met), though I'm not sure whether
that counts for the purposes of your question, given the two bay platforms.

There is a trailing crossover there.

Only Woodford seems to have trailing crossovers at both ends, although
I suppose Lambeth North and maybe Hatton Cross or something that way
have a trailing crossover before the next station in both directions.

Hatton Cross only has crossovers off the east end of the platforms but
you can be routed into either platform to reverse back east.
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