DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tubeservices will still run
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10372932.stm

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube services will still run
 

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Mizter T wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10372932.stm

yippee - that's me cleared for City Airport tomorrow morning.

E

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tubeservices will still run
 

On Jun 22, 5:51*pm, eastender wrote:

*Mizter T wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10372932.stm

yippee - that's me cleared for City Airport tomorrow morning.

I'm sure it's what you're planning on already, but perhaps best to
avoid the Jubilee line just in case things aren't well on the tubes.
Not fully step-free at Shadwell ELL, should that be an issue re
luggage (though I bet you're travelling light from LCY) - some steps
up from the platform to the 'lift hall'. The most seamless route
w.r.t. interchanges is the three legged route via Canada Water and
Canning Town, rather than the two legged route via Shadwell - though I
hardly think it's really a troublesome interchange in the grand scheme
of things. (Plus the Jubilee is of course heaving during the peaks.)

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube services will still run
 

"Mizter T" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10372932.stm

Further update, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/10386788.stm

Tube Lines have applied to the High Court have ballot declared illegal
because...

"...the strike ballot was inaccurate as it only employed 30 engineers but
the union said 47 staff members had voted"

Paul S

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tubeservices will still run
 

"Paul Scott" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

Tube Lines have applied to the High Court have ballot declared illegal
because...

"...the strike ballot was inaccurate as it only employed 30 engineers
but the union said 47 staff members had voted"

How stupid and arrogant do these people have to be, in order to think
they'll get away with this kind of shenanigans?

RMT general secretary Bob Crow said the union would fight "the full
force of the anti-trade union laws to override a perfectly bona fide
ballot".

Oh, yes. Of course. _THAT_ stupid and arrogant.

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube services will still run
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"Paul Scott" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

Tube Lines have applied to the High Court have ballot declared illegal
because...

"...the strike ballot was inaccurate as it only employed 30 engineers
but the union said 47 staff members had voted"

How stupid and arrogant do these people have to be, in order to think
they'll get away with this kind of shenanigans?

RMT general secretary Bob Crow said the union would fight "the full
force of the anti-trade union laws to override a perfectly bona fide
ballot".

Oh, yes. Of course. _THAT_ stupid and arrogant.

I see that Bob Crow is now calling for mass strikes in support of public
sector workers who will now become unemployed. He didn't give a toss any
time in the last three years when it was private sector workers losing their
jobs. So that wil be no support from me then.

Kevin

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube services will still run
 

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:51:10 +0100
"Zen83237" wrote:
I see that Bob Crow is now calling for mass strikes in support of public
sector workers who will now become unemployed. He didn't give a toss any
time in the last three years when it was private sector workers losing their
jobs. So that wil be no support from me then.

Mr Bob "Working class hero" Crow on 105,000 a year according to Metro today.

Still, if the stupid sheep who make up the RMT membership still believe all
that class war guff then they're even thicker than I gave them credit for.

B2003

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tubeservices will still run
 

On 2 July, 09:29, wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:51:10 +0100

"Zen83237" wrote:
I see that Bob Crow is now calling for mass strikes in support of public
sector workers who will now become unemployed. He didn't give a toss any
time in the last three years when it was private sector workers losing their
jobs. So that wil be no support from me then.

Mr Bob "Working class hero" Crow on 105,000 a year according to Metro today.

Still, if the stupid sheep who make up the RMT membership still believe all
that class war guff then they're even thicker than I gave them credit for.

B2003

That story said more about the Taxpayers' Alliance than about Bob
Crow. They would rather pursue their true political interests to
attack people who aren't paid through taxes.

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube
 

On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote:
That story said more about the Taxpayers' Alliance than about Bob
Crow. They would rather pursue their true political interests to
attack people who aren't paid through taxes.

Actually what it says about Bob Crow is that anyone on 105K and still trying
to fight some patheric class war is nothing more than a cynical aggitator
and a stinking hypocrite.

B2003

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube
 

On 3 July, 18:35, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 02:11:23 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
That story said more about the Taxpayers' Alliance than about Bob
Crow. *They would rather pursue their true political interests to
attack people who aren't paid through taxes.

Actually what it says about Bob Crow is that anyone on 105K and still trying
to fight some patheric class war is nothing more than a cynical aggitator
and a stinking hypocrite.

I am not defending large salaries for union leaders. I spent a lot of
my union activity opposing them in the past.

But for an organisation supposedly campaigning for value for taxpayers
to choose to campaign around salaries that don't come out of taxes is
even more hypocritical.

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube
 

On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:41:28 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote:
But for an organisation supposedly campaigning for value for taxpayers
to choose to campaign around salaries that don't come out of taxes is
even more hypocritical.

Not really. Despite the high fares the tube is still heavily subsidised
and that comes out of taxes. More pay for the drivers = higher fares or
more subsidy.

B2003

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube
 

On 3 July, 18:50, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:41:28 -0700 (PDT)

MIG wrote:
But for an organisation supposedly campaigning for value for taxpayers
to choose to campaign around salaries that don't come out of taxes is
even more hypocritical.

Not really. Despite the high fares the tube is still heavily subsidised
and that comes out of taxes. More pay for the drivers = higher fares or
more subsidy.

B2003

I don't think most drivers are in the RMT but, leaving that aside,
your logic seems to be

1) Union suscriptions have to be raised to pay the General Secretary's
salary.

2) LU salaries are automatically raised so that staff can pay their
union subscriptions.

3) Subsidies are automatically increased to cover staff salaries.

4) Taxes are automatically raised to cover subsidies to LU.

5) Therefore, an increase in Bob Crow's salary inevitably results in
raised taxes.

Interesting if that's how it works.

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube
 

On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:31:28 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote:
Not really. Despite the high fares the tube is still heavily subsidised
and that comes out of taxes. More pay for the drivers = higher fares or
more subsidy.

B2003

I don't think most drivers are in the RMT but, leaving that aside,
your logic seems to be

1) Union suscriptions have to be raised to pay the General Secretary's
salary.

2) LU salaries are automatically raised so that staff can pay their
union subscriptions.

3) Subsidies are automatically increased to cover staff salaries.

4) Taxes are automatically raised to cover subsidies to LU.

5) Therefore, an increase in Bob Crow's salary inevitably results in
raised taxes.

Interesting if that's how it works.

No. I'm saying Bob Crow is a hypocrite to come out with all the class war
rhetoric when its plainly obvious he's minted and would make little difference
to him how many of his members lost their jobs due to lack of funds. Also it
seems to me that the only thing Bob Crow cares about is Bob Crow and he rattles
his sabre simply for the sake of looking like he's doing something to justify
his fat pay packet rather than because its the best approach to take.

B2003

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube
 

On 5 July, 09:41, wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:31:28 -0700 (PDT)





MIG wrote:
Not really. Despite the high fares the tube is still heavily subsidised
and that comes out of taxes. More pay for the drivers = higher fares or
more subsidy.

B2003

I don't think most drivers are in the RMT but, leaving that aside,
your logic seems to be

1) Union suscriptions have to be raised to pay the General Secretary's
salary.

2) LU salaries are automatically raised so that staff can pay their
union subscriptions.

3) Subsidies are automatically increased to cover staff salaries.

4) Taxes are automatically raised to cover subsidies to LU.

5) Therefore, an increase in Bob Crow's salary inevitably results in
raised taxes.

Interesting if that's how it works.

No. I'm saying Bob Crow is a hypocrite to come out with all the class war
rhetoric when its plainly obvious he's minted and would make little difference
to him how many of his members lost their jobs due to lack of funds. Also it
seems to me that the only thing Bob Crow cares about is Bob Crow and he rattles
his sabre simply for the sake of looking like he's doing something to justify
his fat pay packet rather than because its the best approach to take.

B2003

Your position on that is clear, but it doesn't clarify any
justification for the "taxpayer" angle.

DLR strike off - Tube Lines infraco strike still on, but Tube
 

On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 03:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
MIG wrote:
Your position on that is clear, but it doesn't clarify any
justification for the "taxpayer" angle.

I don't know the exact reason the taxpayers alliance stuck their oar in but
it is a fact that tube subsidy comes from tax revenues.

B2003