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over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 |
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Dave Arquati wrote:
Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR (but not buses)... but it shows only single ticket prices, not Travelcards? |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:47:08 GMT, Thunderbug wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? David |
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Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or
over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? The line "You can start using Pre Pay from the 5th January, but you can buy online or over the phone now and avoid the rush" at the bottom of www.oystercard.com/prepay |
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Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? The line "You can start using Pre Pay from the 5th January, but you can buy online or over the phone now and avoid the rush" at the bottom of www.oystercard.com/prepay I ordered mine successfully (needed to get a Photocard first though), and it says you can't use your credit until 4th January. I'm a bit disappointed you won't be able to use it on buses straight away though. I guess they're waiting for conductors on Routemaster routes to be given hand-held readers, otherwise you'd end up receiving a free trip. Another thought I had - is there an Oyster reader at each entrance on a bendybus? -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:07:52 +0000, David Walters
wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:47:08 GMT, Thunderbug wrote: Dave Arquati wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? Purchasing one today says "Your Oyster card should arrive and be ready for use on or before Sunday, 07 December 2003." Note the ON or BEFORE apect. Cheers, Jason. |
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In message , Jason
writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:07:52 +0000, David Walters wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:47:08 GMT, Thunderbug wrote: Dave Arquati wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? Purchasing one today says "Your Oyster card should arrive and be ready for use on or before Sunday, 07 December 2003." Note the ON or BEFORE apect. Probably a left hand/right hand situation.... -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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In message , David Walters
writes On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:47:08 GMT, Thunderbug wrote: Dave Arquati wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? Because you can't! (Unless they've changed the rules since last Friday) As I've mentioned before, if you load pre-pay now (by accident) you can either wait until January and use it, or get a refund via CSC -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:03:37 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote: I ordered mine successfully (needed to get a Photocard first though), and it says you can't use your credit until 4th January. I'm a bit disappointed you won't be able to use it on buses straight away though. I guess they're waiting for conductors on Routemaster routes to be given hand-held readers, otherwise you'd end up receiving a free trip. Another thought I had - is there an Oyster reader at each entrance on a bendybus? I'd like to know what's going to happen when using WAGN services. Certain Underground tickets can be used between Seven Sisters, Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central and the intermediate statins. If there's no reader at one of these National Rail stations, how do Oyster know the journey has ended and not charge a zone 1-6 fare? Cheers, Jason. |
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Jason wrote:
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:07:52 +0000, David Walters wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:47:08 GMT, Thunderbug wrote: Dave Arquati wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? Purchasing one today says "Your Oyster card should arrive and be ready for use on or before Sunday, 07 December 2003." Note the ON or BEFORE apect. I think they have forgotten to update that since putting the prepay ticket on sale today - "be ready for use" must imply the weekly or longer tickets. -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:41:37 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote: Jason wrote: Purchasing one today says "Your Oyster card should arrive and be ready for use on or before Sunday, 07 December 2003." Note the ON or BEFORE apect. I think they have forgotten to update that since putting the prepay ticket on sale today - "be ready for use" must imply the weekly or longer tickets. Probably right - they should come to u.t.l and listen to us experts nit-pick their site! ;-) Cheers, Jason. |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:35:18 +0000, Kat wrote:
In message , David Walters writes What makes you think you can't use prepay now? Because you can't! Indeed, I was being dense and missed the bit on the website with the 5th of Jan listed. As I've mentioned before, if you load pre-pay now (by accident) you can either wait until January and use it, or get a refund via CSC Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? David |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:40:42 +0000, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:03:37 +0000, Dave Arquati wrote: I ordered mine successfully (needed to get a Photocard first though), and it says you can't use your credit until 4th January. I'm a bit disappointed you won't be able to use it on buses straight away though. I guess they're waiting for conductors on Routemaster routes to be given hand-held readers, otherwise you'd end up receiving a free trip. Another thought I had - is there an Oyster reader at each entrance on a bendybus? Not at present but a further installation programme is due to add them at the second and third entrance / exits. I'd like to know what's going to happen when using WAGN services. Certain Underground tickets can be used between Seven Sisters, Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central and the intermediate statins. If there's no reader at one of these National Rail stations, how do Oyster know the journey has ended and not charge a zone 1-6 fare? But you cannot use the tickets at any intermediate station as I understand matters. You will note at Walthamstow Central that the validators have been installed at the entrances to both WAGN platforms. They do need to be connected to power and data cables so I would imagine this will happen shortly. Haven't looked at Tottenham Hale or Seven Sisters but I'd imagine there would only be an interchange validator at Seven Sisters as the street entrance is gated; Tottenham Hale will need something separate for the WAGN area. -- Paul C Admits to Working for London Underground! |
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In message , Jason
writes I'd like to know what's going to happen when using WAGN services. Certain Underground tickets can be used between Seven Sisters, Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central and the intermediate statins. If there's no reader at one of these National Rail stations, how do Oyster know the journey has ended and not charge a zone 1-6 fare? Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central (and others) will allow out of station interchanges within 15 minutes and will automatically recognise that this is an interchange so a HHC will display original station and final exit to your journey. -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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In message , David Walters
writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:35:18 +0000, Kat wrote: In message , David Walters writes What makes you think you can't use prepay now? Because you can't! Indeed, I was being dense and missed the bit on the website with the 5th of Jan listed. As I've mentioned before, if you load pre-pay now (by accident) you can either wait until January and use it, or get a refund via CSC Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote:
Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. David |
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In message , David Walters
writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote: Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet. -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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Kat wrote:
In message , David Walters writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote: Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet. I think he means (and I have seen it too), that you can buy a paper ticket from the machine, and when you get to the payment screen, you can insert coins, notes, cards OR you can have the amount lifted from your Oyster (if it has a wedge of cash topped up on it already). |
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"Kat" wrote in message ... In message , David Walters writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote: Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet. What we have here is a failure to comunicate... What (I think) we're talking about is; walking up to a ticket machine, selecting your ticket and paying for it by placing you oyster on the card reader. The cost of the ticket is deducted from your oyster and a paper ticket is issued. It is simply using the oyster as an electronic wallet, none of the higher functions. -- Cheers, Steve. If The Good Lord had meant for us to be fiscally prudent, He would not have given us the platinum credit card... Change colour to PC Plod's lights to reply. |
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In message , Dave Newt
writes Kat wrote: In message , David Walters writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote: Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet. I think he means (and I have seen it too), that you can buy a paper ticket from the machine, and when you get to the payment screen, you can insert coins, notes, cards OR you can have the amount lifted from your Oyster (if it has a wedge of cash topped up on it already). Yes, I know the option to do that appears on the screen but when you *actually* try to use it, it will say that it's not available. If he has bought a paper ticket using Prepay on Oyster then I think it must be a trial at certain stations only. -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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In message , Steve
Dulieu writes "Kat" wrote in message ... In message , David Walters writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote: Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet. What we have here is a failure to comunicate... What (I think) we're talking about is; walking up to a ticket machine, selecting your ticket and paying for it by placing you oyster on the card reader. The cost of the ticket is deducted from your oyster and a paper ticket is issued. It is simply using the oyster as an electronic wallet, none of the higher functions. No, I do understand exactly what you mean but it's my understanding that this is not generally available yet. However, it is more than likely that it *is* enabled at a few stations to test the system. -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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In message , Kat
writes In message , Dave Newt writes Kat wrote: In message , David Walters writes On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote: Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard? I wonder why you say "no longer" AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster. I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet. I think he means (and I have seen it too), that you can buy a paper ticket from the machine, and when you get to the payment screen, you can insert coins, notes, cards OR you can have the amount lifted from your Oyster (if it has a wedge of cash topped up on it already). Yes, I know the option to do that appears on the screen but when you *actually* try to use it, it will say that it's not available. If he has bought a paper ticket using Prepay on Oyster then I think it must be a trial at certain stations only. And, I should add, according to the information I have, using Pre-Pay to buy magnetic tickets will not be available until February 04 -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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In article ,
Kat wrote: Yes, I know the option to do that appears on the screen but when you *actually* try to use it, it will say that it's not available. If he has bought a paper ticket using Prepay on Oyster then I think it must be a trial at certain stations only. I've done it at Leytonstone, Finchley Central and the station on the picadilly that got busses from East Finchley when the Northern Line was todged. I might go to Mile End tomorrow, just to try! -- Good night little fishey-wishes.... I've counted you, so no sneaky eating each other. -- FW (should I worry?) |
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writes In article , Kat wrote: Yes, I know the option to do that appears on the screen but when you *actually* try to use it, it will say that it's not available. If he has bought a paper ticket using Prepay on Oyster then I think it must be a trial at certain stations only. I've done it at Leytonstone, Finchley Central and the station on the picadilly that got busses from East Finchley when the Northern Line was todged. I might go to Mile End tomorrow, just to try! Well do let me know; it certainly wasn't working on Friday but as this is Tuesday who knows what may have been done in the meantime.... And, come to think of it, I did get an inkling that it may have been enabled early somewhere on the group. -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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"Kat" wrote in message ... Well do let me know; it certainly wasn't working on Friday but as this is Tuesday who knows what may have been done in the meantime.... And, come to think of it, I did get an inkling that it may have been enabled early somewhere on the group. You've gotta stop reading those tea-leaves Kat! |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:15:42 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... How do you actually order it online? I've registered on the site, but when progressing to the "buy oystercard online now" it insists on me entering a photocard number. But I do not have a photocard, and nor do I think I need one for single tickets or 7 day tickets. The web site is AWFUL too. |
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But you cannot use the tickets at any intermediate station as I
understand matters. This was discussed in another thread and although that is what the TfL literature says I believe the conclusion was that the situation had now changed though I must admit I didn't quite follow it. Haven't looked at Tottenham Hale or Seven Sisters but I'd imagine there would only be an interchange validator at Seven Sisters as the street entrance is gated Seven Sisters does indeed have validators on both sides of the passageway leading to and from the WAGN platforms. They have been there several months at least and were presumably installed at the same time as those on the gates. |
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In message , Robin Mayes
writes "Kat" wrote in message ... Well do let me know; it certainly wasn't working on Friday but as this is Tuesday who knows what may have been done in the meantime.... And, come to think of it, I did get an inkling that it may have been enabled early somewhere on the group. You've gotta stop reading those tea-leaves Kat! Tea, tea! Do you think us SAs have time to drink tea, let alone read the future? -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions or carrying change. I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet. What we have here is a failure to comunicate... What (I think) we're talking about is; walking up to a ticket machine, selecting your ticket and paying for it by placing you oyster on the card reader. The cost of the ticket is deducted from your oyster and a paper ticket is issued. It is simply using the oyster as an electronic wallet, none of the higher functions. No, I do understand exactly what you mean but it's my understanding that this is not generally available yet. However, it is more than likely that it *is* enabled at a few stations to test the system. -- I've used it for the past month or so, and it's worked at Belsize Park Swiss Cottage Finchley Road Uxbridge Edgware Road H&C Baker Street I've never had it say I can't use it (yet!). I select a ticket as normal, then instead of shoving my credit card in, I press "pay using oyster". It then deducts the amount from my card. I only do it as it's a bit faster then verifying your card, and I don't need to get my card out, stick it in the machine etc. It's a small saving, I know, but it saves the shrapnel on the c.c statement. JP |
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I@n wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:15:42 +0000, Dave Arquati wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... How do you actually order it online? I've registered on the site, but when progressing to the "buy oystercard online now" it insists on me entering a photocard number. But I do not have a photocard, and nor do I think I need one for single tickets or 7 day tickets. The web site is AWFUL too. Agreed... I couldn't actually get the popup window to load in Mozilla Firebird or Internet Explorer. But anyway - I'm under the impression that you *do* need a (free) photocard since the Oyster is quite a permanent thing. There is a £3 deposit to get it (reclaimable on surrendering the Oyster). Of course, requiring a photocard might be a bug since it's only gone on sale today, and they've forgotten to make this part of their script optional for Prepay customers. -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 |
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I@n wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... How do you actually order it online? I've registered on the site, but when progressing to the "buy oystercard online now" it insists on me entering a photocard number. But I do not have a photocard, and nor do I think I need one for single tickets or 7 day tickets. The web site is AWFUL too. The web site isn't the best! I phoned the helpline, and apparantly you need a photocard even for a prepay oyster (god knows why, when the site says you can lend it to family and friends!). However the person I spoke to did explain to me how I could get a prepay oyster and a blank photocard sent together, so I can just bung a photo in when I got it (I don't live in London). I presume they don't want everyone to do this automatically or they'd have put details on the site, but it may be worth phoning the 0845 number and explaining, if you can't get to a tube station easily at the minute. Regards, Lukr |
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Kat wrote in message ...
In message , David Walters writes On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:47:08 GMT, Thunderbug wrote: Dave Arquati wrote: Now available online (http://www.oystercard.com/prepay/fares.htm) or over the phone (0870 849 9999). Yes, I'm as shocked as anyone else! I'm going to try ordering one online now... So, available to order online now, can be topped up at stations from 15th December, can be used from 5th January on tube/DLR What makes you think you can't use prepay now? Because you can't! (Unless they've changed the rules since last Friday) As I've mentioned before, if you load pre-pay now (by accident) you can either wait until January and use it, or get a refund via CSC But there is still no mention on oystercard.com of the pre-pay system which has been much discussed on this group whereby, for multiple journeys, you would be charged for the approprate 1-day travelcard (or was it LT Card?) for the zones you have traversed if that is cheaper than the sum of the fares for your single journeys. Does anyone know if/when will this system be brought in - and why isn't it mentioned on the Oystercard site? Am I wrong to suspect the system can't cope with it yet? I do hope I am wrong, but it does seem odd to introduce an 'interim' prepay system now if they are going to add the daily travelcard capability later - it will confuse customers. Better to delay until the system is ready. Until they sort this out pre-pay will be a very unsatisfactory system since, if you expect to do a number of journeys in a day, you will need to decide whether your Oyster pre-pay fares (2003 prices) offer a saving or whether you'd be better off buying a paper travelcard that day, which will seem absurd when you already have an oyster in your pocket! |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:21:42 +0000, Paul Corfield
wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:40:42 +0000, Jason wrote: I'd like to know what's going to happen when using WAGN services. Certain Underground tickets can be used between Seven Sisters, Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central and the intermediate statins. But you cannot use the tickets at any intermediate station as I understand matters. You will note at Walthamstow Central that the See printed page 18 / PDF page 11 of - http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/fa...ts-may2003.pdf "Tube singles, returns, season tickets, One Day LT Cards, ‘Youth’ LT Card seasons and Group Day tickets can also be used on a number of joint routes and services with National Rail. Tickets must be valid between the appropriate joint stations or zones. The routes a [snip] Liverpool Street to Walthamstow Central/ Tottenham Hale/Seven Sisters (but not at intermediate stations for holders of LT Cards)" validators have been installed at the entrances to both WAGN platforms. Of particular interest to me is St James Street, which isn't an Underground interchange. If there's no reader, Oyster won't know the journey has ended and will charge a zone 1-6 fare. Cheers, Jason. |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:24:52 -0000, "Graham J" wrote:
But you cannot use the tickets at any intermediate station as I understand matters. This was discussed in another thread and although that is what the TfL literature says I believe the conclusion was that the situation had now changed though I must admit I didn't quite follow it. If we're thinking of the same thread, I thought that was about LT cards. I'm talking about singles/returns. See printed page 18 / PDF page 11 of - http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/fa...ts-may2003.pdf "Tube singles, returns, season tickets, One Day LT Cards, ‘Youth’ LT Card seasons and Group Day tickets can also be used on a number of joint routes and services with National Rail. Tickets must be valid between the appropriate joint stations or zones. The routes a [snip] Liverpool Street to Walthamstow Central/ Tottenham Hale/Seven Sisters (but not at intermediate stations for holders of LT Cards)" Cheers, Jason. |
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Because you can't! (Unless they've changed the rules since last Friday) As I've mentioned before, if you load pre-pay now (by accident) you can either wait until January and use it, or get a refund via CSC Unless they've changed the rules very recently... Anything that you have loaded onto prepay can be used to buy tickets at the big ticket machines. The ticket won't be loaded onto the card, you will get a normal, printed card ticket, but the money will be deducted from the prepay balance. And as I discovered a few weeks ago, prepay seems to work quite happily on buses equipped with Oyster readers. It only charges you a penny for each ride mind you... -- -sandy |
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"umpston" wrote in message om... But there is still no mention on oystercard.com of the pre-pay system which has been much discussed on this group whereby, for multiple journeys, you would be charged for the approprate 1-day travelcard (or was it LT Card?) for the zones you have traversed if that is cheaper than the sum of the fares for your single journeys. Does anyone know if/when will this system be brought in - and why isn't it mentioned on the Oystercard site? Am I wrong to suspect the system can't cope with it yet? I do hope I am wrong, but it does seem odd to introduce an 'interim' prepay system now if they are going to add the daily travelcard capability later - it will confuse customers. Better to delay until the system is ready. Until they sort this out pre-pay will be a very unsatisfactory system since, if you expect to do a number of journeys in a day, you will need to decide whether your Oyster pre-pay fares (2003 prices) offer a saving or whether you'd be better off buying a paper travelcard that day, which will seem absurd when you already have an oyster in your pocket! There are currently 'undocumented features' causign the system not to deal effectively with multiple journeys. Staff training, bar those in the ticket offices and a select number of station staff is IMHO inadequate to the extreme. Yet another project that has great potential but is being introduced without well thought out implementation. |
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On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:05:14 -0000, Robin Mayes wrote:
There are currently 'undocumented features' causign the system not to deal effectively with multiple journeys. Do tell, you can't leave us hanging on like that! David |
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In message , David Walters
writes On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:05:14 -0000, Robin Mayes wrote: There are currently 'undocumented features' causign the system not to deal effectively with multiple journeys. Do tell, you can't leave us hanging on like that! That's all we've been told officially. One hears things from the technicians but it's hard to sort out what's true and what's conjecture... -- Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them. |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 01:44:35 +0000, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:21:42 +0000, Paul Corfield wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:40:42 +0000, Jason wrote: I'd like to know what's going to happen when using WAGN services. Certain Underground tickets can be used between Seven Sisters, Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central and the intermediate statins. But you cannot use the tickets at any intermediate station as I understand matters. You will note at Walthamstow Central that the See printed page 18 / PDF page 11 of - http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/fa...ts-may2003.pdf "Tube singles, returns, season tickets, One Day LT Cards, ‘Youth’ LT Card seasons and Group Day tickets can also be used on a number of joint routes and services with National Rail. Tickets must be valid between the appropriate joint stations or zones. The routes a [snip] Liverpool Street to Walthamstow Central/ Tottenham Hale/Seven Sisters (but not at intermediate stations for holders of LT Cards)" Well you learn something new everyday. I do find that a very odd ruling in the way singles and returns are OK but LT cards are not. Must be something to do with the apportionment process or somesuch. validators have been installed at the entrances to both WAGN platforms. Of particular interest to me is St James Street, which isn't an Underground interchange. If there's no reader, Oyster won't know the journey has ended and will charge a zone 1-6 fare. Well given the above info re the validity then equipment should be being installed at Bethnal Green, Cambridge Heath, London Fields, Hackney Downs, Clapton, St James St, Rectory Road, Stoke Newington and Stamford Hill stations. That's quite an undertaking in such a short time. I've also spotted a problem given the recent decision to close the Walthamstow Central Ticket hall after 21.00. All the validators are in there and the side gate has no such facility. Therefore inter available pre-pay will not work where validators are not provided at these late night side exits - I believe Stoke Newington station certainly works like this. -- Paul C Admits to Working for London Underground! |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 23:27:23 +0000, Luke Ross
wrote: I phoned the helpline, and apparantly you need a photocard even for a prepay oyster (god knows why, when the site says you can lend it to family and friends!). However the person I spoke to did explain to me how I could get a prepay oyster and a blank photocard sent together, so I can just bung a photo in when I got it (I don't live in London). I presume they don't want everyone to do this automatically or they'd have put details on the site, but it may be worth phoning the 0845 number and explaining, if you can't get to a tube station easily at the minute. I went and got a new Oyster with a 7 day Travelcard loaded on it yesterday. I had to supply a photocard number (my NR one seemed to be good enough), but the fella stated I didn't need a dedicated LU one for my Oyster card as it was a 7 dayer. In addition, as PrePay is *officially* transferable ("you can lend it family and friends" quoth the website) why would a photocard be of any use? Rob |
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