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[email protected] August 7th 10 06:59 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.

Can anybody advise on this, please?

Cheers.

Peter Smyth August 7th 10 07:21 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where there
is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything on
journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR would
be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Peter Smyth


Mizter T August 7th 10 07:37 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 7, 7:59*pm, "
wrote:
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.

Can anybody advise on this, please?


I dunno about split ticketing, but there's a number of options on the
London to Brighton route...

~ ~ ~

(1) Until 20 August as a special offer Southern are offering a 25%
discount on their off-peak fares *but* only if you buy them direct
from the Southern website (no need to choose specific trains though) -
this means an Off-peak Day Return from London to Brighton, normally
priced at £21.70, is now £16.30. Note that you need to use Southern
services, so that limits you to travelling from (and back to) Victoria
(unless you want to use the stopping service between London Bridge and
East Croydon!).

More info about the offer:
http://www.southernrailway.com/offers/save-25-off-peak/

Also this 25% discount applies on top of Railcard discounts, so with a
Railcard the fare drops to £10.75. The T&Cs don't list the Network
Railcard as offering a further discount, but when you put it in the
booking engine it seems to work anyway! T&Cs:
http://www.southernrailway.com/offers/save-25-off-peak/223/

~ ~ ~

(2) FCC's regular Off-Peak Day Return fare is £17 - this limits you to
travel down and back on FCC Thameslink trains, so your departure point
will be one of the central London Thameslink stations (St Pancras down
to London Bridge). This isn't a special offer, and as a regular fare
all Railcard discounts are available as normal. You can buy this

~ ~ ~

(3) Southern's DaySave or Downlander tickets.

DaySave costs £10 and is essentially an off-peak rover for the
Southern network (though check the restrictions), alas you need to buy
it at least seven days in advance...
http://www.southernrailway.com/tickets-and-fares/daysave/

*But* Southern offers something called the "Downlander", the all
network version of which costs £12.50 - it's basically an off-peak
rover too plus it provides bus travel across the South Downs - note
that you need to buy this at least two days in advance, but it's
actually a print at home ticket - see:
http://www.southernrailway.com/tickets-and-fares/downlander/

(Perhaps best not to expect everyone who checks your ticket to know
what it is though... ;-)

~ ~ ~

(4) Alternatively on the Southern website enter "London Victoria" as
your origin station (doesn't work it it's just "London") and then look
for cheap Advance tickets, which are priced at £3.75, £5.65 or £7.50
(this includes the 25% discount for buying them direct from Southern).
If you do this you will of course limit yourself to travelling on the
chosen train (as with any Advance ticket).

~ ~ ~

Mizter T August 7th 10 07:41 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

Correction time! (Only a minor one!)

On Aug 7, 8:37*pm, Mizter T wrote:
[snip]
I dunno about split ticketing, but there's a number of options on the
London to Brighton route...

~ ~ ~

(1) Until 20 August [...]


should read: Until 30 August

[...] as a special offer Southern are offering a 25%
discount on their off-peak fares *but* only if you buy them direct
from the Southern website [...]


Mizter T August 7th 10 07:49 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
Argh, spoke too soon w.r.t. my first correction! Missed off the end of
a sentence here...

Mizter T wrote:
[snip]
(2) FCC's regular Off-Peak Day Return fare is £17 - this limits you to
travel down and back on FCC Thameslink trains, so your departure point
will be one of the central London Thameslink stations (St Pancras down
to London Bridge). This isn't a special offer, and as a regular fare
all Railcard discounts are available as normal. You can buy this


....from the ticket office on the day, or perhaps even from a ticket
machine if you can get it to co-operate and offer what you want.

(Fairly obvious point that is implied above - this is for travel on
FCC trains only.)

David A Stocks[_3_] August 7th 10 08:14 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where there
is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything on journeys
within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR would be
16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need to
book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Peter Smyth


If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available for
around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix for
booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.

--
DAS


[email protected] August 7th 10 08:25 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 07/08/2010 21:14, David A Stocks wrote:
"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week
during off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said
that there were no available options on that route, which I found
slightly surprising.


Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where
there is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything
on journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR
would be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will
get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Peter Smyth


If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.

--
DAS


What is AP?

Chris Tolley[_2_] August 7th 10 08:29 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
wrote:

On 07/08/2010 21:14, David A Stocks wrote:
"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week
during off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website
http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said
that there were no available options on that route, which I found
slightly surprising.

Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where
there is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything
on journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR
would be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will
get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Peter Smyth


If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.

--
DAS


What is AP?


Advance Purchase. Book ahead, get big discount for putting up with
restrictions that specify which train you must use it on. (It is not
valid on any other, unless the train service goes belly up).
--
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9683713.html
(55020 (Class 121) at Oxford, 6 Aug 1982)

[email protected] August 7th 10 08:31 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 07/08/2010 21:14, David A Stocks wrote:
"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week
during off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said
that there were no available options on that route, which I found
slightly surprising.


Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where
there is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything
on journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR
would be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will
get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Peter Smyth


If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.

--
DAS


Ho would I be able to do that in this case, should I need to return to
Brighton?

Mizter T August 7th 10 08:46 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 7, 9:31*pm, "
wrote:

On 07/08/2010 21:14, David A Stocks wrote:

"Peter Smyth" wrote:


Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR
would be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will
get.


The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.


If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.


Ho would I be able to do that in this case, should I need to return to
Brighton?


What exactly do you mean by that?

Advance tickets (what are referred to as AP or Advance Purchase
tickets above) are one way tickets that are only valid on the booked
train, that is a specific service that you choose.

You can check out availability on the Southern website - ensure that
you specify "London Victoria" as the origin station:
http://www.southernrailway.com/

David A Stocks[_3_] August 7th 10 08:57 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
wrote in message
news:Foj7o.42953$806.36570@hurricane...
On 07/08/2010 21:14, David A Stocks wrote:
"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week
during off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said
that there were no available options on that route, which I found
slightly surprising.

Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where
there is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything
on journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR
would be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will
get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Peter Smyth


If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.

--
DAS


Ho would I be able to do that in this case, should I need to return to
Brighton?


I don't understand that question.

You can buy Advance Purchase (AP) tickets from £3.75 each way which are
restricted to the booked train for each ticket. If you can't find an AP
ticket for Brighton at the time/price you want to travel (the allocations
frequently sell out) you may have better luck with a train to/from Hove
(where the allocations rarely sell out), this might be as/more convenient
for you depending on the purpose of your visit.

It's all on the Southern web site but you may need to register (free) to get
the best deals.

--
DAS


Mizter T August 7th 10 09:22 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 7, 9:57*pm, "David A Stocks" wrote:

wrote:

On 07/08/2010 21:14, David A Stocks wrote:
[snip]
If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.


Ho would I be able to do that in this case, should I need to return to
Brighton?


I don't understand that question.

You can buy Advance Purchase (AP) tickets from £3.75 each way which are
restricted to the booked train for each ticket. If you can't find an AP
ticket for Brighton at the time/price you want to travel (the allocations
frequently sell out) you may have better luck with a train to/from Hove
(where the allocations rarely sell out), this might be as/more convenient
for you depending on the purpose of your visit.

It's all on the Southern web site but you may need to register (free) to get
the best deals.


There's no need to register to check for the best deals - all the
regular tickets (including Advance tickets) are shown on the booking
engine to any user who goes there to look for them - meanwhile info
about the DaySave and Downlander tickets are also freely available.

If someone wants to actually purchase a regular ticket then they'll
need to register as part of the transaction - however if someone wants
to buy DavSave or Downlander tickets then they need to register first.

Good tip about Hove too.

[email protected] August 7th 10 09:50 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
In article 82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane, ()
wrote:

I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week
during off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website
http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said
that there were no available options on that route, which I found
slightly surprising.

Can anybody advise on this, please?


That site seems completely useless. I tried Cambridge-Birmingham New St
for which I know there are cheaper options splitting at Leicester but it
knows nothing about the route. Pathetic!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Derek F[_2_] August 7th 10 10:20 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where there
is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything on
journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR would
be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Peter Smyth

Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.
Derek

Mizter T August 7th 10 10:35 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 7, 11:20*pm, Derek F wrote:

On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:

wrote:


I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.


I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where there
is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything on
journeys within the NSE area such as this.


Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR would
be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will get.


The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.


Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.


AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton & Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx

However this does remind me of something I'd thought of doing before -
from London a traveller could take advantage of a cheap Advance fare
to get from Victoria to Brighton, and could then walk down and buy a
DaySave ticket either for onward travel to elsewhere on Southern
trains along the south coast or just for their return journey back to
London later.

Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104

(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)

Paul Scott August 8th 10 10:41 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 


"David A Stocks" wrote in message
...

If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix for
booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.


The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now £13 on
weekdays...

Paul S




Derek F[_2_] August 8th 10 10:42 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:

On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:

On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:

wrote:


I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.


I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where there
is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything on
journeys within the NSE area such as this.


Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR would
be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will get.


The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.


Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.


AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx

However this does remind me of something I'd thought of doing before -
from London a traveller could take advantage of a cheap Advance fare
to get from Victoria to Brighton, and could then walk down and buy a
DaySave ticket either for onward travel to elsewhere on Southern
trains along the south coast or just for their return journey back to
London later.

Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104

(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)

Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.
Derek

Ivor The Engine August 8th 10 01:21 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:41:28 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now £13 on
weekdays...


Which is odd seeing that that the minimum fare on other railcards is
£12

Paul Scott August 8th 10 02:17 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 


wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...

I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has successfully produced a
'split fare system' that does a full search. It might just be a lookup of
splits already reported, or known to the authors...

Paul S




[email protected] August 8th 10 02:22 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
In article ,
lid (Ivor The Engine) wrote:

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:41:28 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:

The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now £13
on weekdays...


Which is odd seeing that that the minimum fare on other railcards is £12


ATOC don't like the Network Railcard and tried to get rid of it altogether.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] August 8th 10 02:32 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 8 Aug, 15:17, "Paul Scott" wrote:
wrote in message

news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...

I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has successfully produced a
'split fare system' that does a full search. It might just be a lookup of
splits already reported, or known to the authors...

Paul S


Well I'm not sure how this one works, but if it's a lookup it's
unsuccessful

Honeybourne to Paddington - 'no split available' OPDR £32

Splitting in Slough £22.50 plus £7.50 - £30 total

In the past it (or a competitor) HAS shown the split.

[email protected] August 8th 10 04:49 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
In article
,
() wrote:

On 8 Aug, 15:17, "Paul Scott" wrote:
wrote in message

news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...

I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said
that there were no available options on that route, which I found
slightly surprising.


I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has successfully produced a
'split fare system' that does a full search. It might just be a lookup
of splits already reported, or known to the authors...


Well I'm not sure how this one works, but if it's a lookup it's
unsuccessful

Honeybourne to Paddington - 'no split available' OPDR £32

Splitting in Slough £22.50 plus £7.50 - £30 total

In the past it (or a competitor) HAS shown the split.


The examples I saw online just now were of 2008 fares.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

David A Stocks[_3_] August 8th 10 08:47 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...


"David A Stocks" wrote in message
...

If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for
booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.


The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now £13 on
weekdays...

Paul S

Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for £7.85
two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted super
off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15% discount for
buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after all
where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

--
DAS


Derek F[_2_] August 8th 10 10:02 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 08/08/2010 11:42, Derek F wrote:
On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:

On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:

On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:

wrote:

I have to go to Brighton for the day in the middle of next week during
off-peak hours, and I wanted to know if anybody knew of any
split-ticketing from London Victoria.

I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.

Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where
there
is no Day Return available. I wouldn't expect to find anything on
journeys within the NSE area such as this.

Southern are currently offering 25% off on their website so a CDR would
be 16.30 instead of 21.70. That is probably as cheap as you will get.

The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you need
to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.

Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.


AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx

However this does remind me of something I'd thought of doing before -
from London a traveller could take advantage of a cheap Advance fare
to get from Victoria to Brighton, and could then walk down and buy a
DaySave ticket either for onward travel to elsewhere on Southern
trains along the south coast or just for their return journey back to
London later.

Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104

(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)

Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.
Derek

The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256
Derek

Mizter T August 8th 10 11:15 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 8, 11:02*pm, Derek F wrote:

On 08/08/2010 11:42, Derek F wrote:

On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:


On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:


On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:
(snip)
The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you
need to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.


Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.


AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx


(snip)


Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104


(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)


Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.


The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256


Thanks Derek, didn't realise the Southern DaySave was available
anywhere else apart from the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton - be
interesting to know what other places sell it too.

We did have quite a big discussion about Southern DaySave on
uk.railway around this time last year, when the availability of said
ticket at 1 Stop Travel came up but no-one offered any other outlets,
so I had wrongly assumed it couldn't be purchased over the counter on
the day anywhere else.

Paul Scott August 9th 10 08:22 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 


"David A Stocks" wrote in message
...
"Paul Scott" wrote in message
...


"David A Stocks" wrote in message
...

If you have a Network Railcard there is an off-peak day return available
for around £11.00, failing that you might be able to get single AP tix
for
booked trains from £3.75 each way, but these can be very restrictive.


The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now £13 on
weekdays...


Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for
£7.85 two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted
super off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15%
discount for buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after
all where do you think I got the price I quoted from?


It isn't obvious from your earlier post that you were getting more than one
discount.

I believe you...

Paul


Jon Passenger August 9th 10 10:04 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 8 Aug, 15:17, "Paul Scott" wrote:
wrote in message

news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...

I looked on the websitehttp://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.


I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone has successfully produced a
'split fare system' that does a full search. It might just be a lookup of
splits already reported, or known to the authors...

Paul S


There was an exhaustive system discussed on here a few years ago. For
all but the simplest of journeys, it fell over.

I think this is because it relied on live queries of publically
available (web based = v. slow ) front-ends.

Even with a well pruned search tree, the number of hits you'd need fo
any non trivial journey would be huge - and that's true even if you
didn't fall into a tarpit, etc.

In order to do a reasonable job, you'd need direct access to the ojp
databases - each query would still be far more computationally
expensive than a standard ojp query. The people who can do this most
cheaply are the people with the most to lose from such a system
working so don't expect it any time soon.

In the current climate, the application of some basic knowledge to
create rule of thumb heuristics (ie test splitting at major
interchanges / regional boundaries / known price break points ) plus
attempts at some sort of primitive 'crowdsourcing' (yuk) - like the
site cited above - might be the best available approach.

Jon

Jon Passenger August 9th 10 10:07 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for £7.85
two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted super
off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15% discount for
buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after all
where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

--
DAS


I can confirm that I've seen that happen (Southern website ignoring
the £13 NSE minimum). That was on a order with a mixture of railcards
- I'd just assumed that the system couldn't cope with the different
restrictions.

Jon

Jon Passenger August 9th 10 10:13 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 9 Aug, 00:15, Mizter T wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:02*pm, Derek F wrote:



On 08/08/2010 11:42, Derek F wrote:


On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:


On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:


On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:
(snip)
The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you
need to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.


Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.


AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx


(snip)


Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104


(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)


Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.


The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256


Thanks Derek, didn't realise the Southern DaySave was available
anywhere else apart from the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton - be
interesting to know what other places sell it too.

We did have quite a big discussion about Southern DaySave on
uk.railway around this time last year, when the availability of said
ticket at 1 Stop Travel came up but no-one offered any other outlets,
so I had wrongly assumed it couldn't be purchased over the counter on
the day anywhere else.


I'd never heard of this either (my office overlooks the Old Steine,
BTN so I quite often end up using on-the-day DaySaves ) - the wording
clearly implies there could be other outlets but i've never come
across any.



Paul Scott August 9th 10 10:28 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 


"Jon Passenger" wrote in message
...
Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for
£7.85
two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted
super
off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15% discount for
buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after
all
where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

--
DAS


I can confirm that I've seen that happen (Southern website ignoring
the £13 NSE minimum). That was on a order with a mixture of railcards
- I'd just assumed that the system couldn't cope with the different
restrictions.


It does seem odd - particular now that I've noticed that SN's '25% discount
T&C' doesn't list the Network Card as being eligible:
http://www.southernrailway.com/offer...-off-peak/223/

But the website does appear to allow me a Fareham to Victoria super offpeak
return for £6.95 with NC discount. Bargain...

Paul S


Derek F[_2_] August 9th 10 11:41 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 09/08/2010 11:13, Jon Passenger wrote:
On 9 Aug, 00:15, Mizter wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:02 pm, Derek wrote:



On 08/08/2010 11:42, Derek F wrote:


On 07/08/2010 23:35, Mizter T wrote:


On Aug 7, 11:20 pm, Derek wrote:


On 07/08/2010 20:21, Peter Smyth wrote:
(snip)
The cheapest way is a Daysave ticket for 10.00, unfortunately you
need to book 7 days in advance so it is too late for this trip.


Some Tourist Offices sell the Daysave on the day.


AIUI the only place that sells Southern DaySave tickets on the day is
the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton (run by Brighton& Hove buses) -
furthermore only the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Steine, not the one at
Brighton station - more info:
http://www.buses.co.uk/trips/onestop.aspx


(snip)


Incidentally a ticket that goes by the name of DaySave is sold at some
tourist offices, but it's the separate FCC Thameslink route DaySave -
more info at the bottom of this page:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/Main.php?iCmsPageId=104


(Worth noting that the 1 Stop Travel shop on Old Stein also sells
these on the day too.)


Eastbourne tourist office sell the DaySave tickets on the day. It would
seem likely that Southern would have other outlets.


The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256


Thanks Derek, didn't realise the Southern DaySave was available
anywhere else apart from the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton - be
interesting to know what other places sell it too.

We did have quite a big discussion about Southern DaySave on
uk.railway around this time last year, when the availability of said
ticket at 1 Stop Travel came up but no-one offered any other outlets,
so I had wrongly assumed it couldn't be purchased over the counter on
the day anywhere else.


I'd never heard of this either (my office overlooks the Old Steine,
BTN so I quite often end up using on-the-day DaySaves ) - the wording
clearly implies there could be other outlets but i've never come
across any.


My thought is that there must be London outlets.
Derek

Mizter T August 9th 10 11:58 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 9, 12:41*pm, Derek F wrote:

On 09/08/2010 11:13, Jon Passenger wrote:

On 9 Aug, 00:15, Mizter *wrote:


On Aug 8, 11:02 pm, Derek *wrote:
[snip]
The Eastbourne web site says 'agents such as...'
http://www.visiteastbourne.com/thedm...&venue=3413256


Thanks Derek, didn't realise the Southern DaySave was available
anywhere else apart from the 1 Stop Travel shop in Brighton - be
interesting to know what other places sell it too.


We did have quite a big discussion about Southern DaySave on
uk.railway around this time last year, when the availability of said
ticket at 1 Stop Travel came up but no-one offered any other outlets,
so I had wrongly assumed it couldn't be purchased over the counter on
the day anywhere else.


I'd never heard of this either (my office overlooks the Old Steine,
BTN so I quite often end up using on-the-day DaySaves ) - the wording
clearly implies there could be other outlets but i've never come
across any.


My thought is that there must be London outlets.


I really don't think there are any I'm afraid...

Michael R N Dolbear August 9th 10 03:53 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
Ivor The Engine wrote
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:41:28 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:


The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now

£13 on
weekdays...


Which is odd seeing that that the minimum fare on other railcards is
£12


Huh ?

No minimum fare on Senior railcard for example.

--
Mike D



[email protected] August 9th 10 08:18 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
In article 01cb3728$16e1afe0$LocalHost@default, (Michael
R N Dolbear) wrote:

Ivor The Engine wrote
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:41:28 +0100, "Paul Scott"
wrote:


The OP is travelling midweek. The Network Card minimum fare is now
£13 on weekdays...


Which is odd seeing that that the minimum fare on other railcards is
£12


Huh ?

No minimum fare on Senior railcard for example.


But there is an earliest time, it appears.

There is a minimum fare of 16-25 railcards, but only before a certain
time, isn't there?
--
Colin Rosenstiel

Ivor The Engine August 9th 10 09:32 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On 9 Aug 2010 15:53:30 GMT, "Michael R N Dolbear"
wrote:

Which is odd seeing that that the minimum fare on other railcards is
£12


Huh ?

No minimum fare on Senior railcard for example.


Ok, I'll try again.

Other railcards with a minimum fare, including 16-25 and Family, have
it set at £12 for most of the year (e.g. 16-25 has no restrictions in
July & August).

Is that better?

John @ home August 10th 10 06:46 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On Aug 9, 10:32*pm, Ivor The Engine
wrote:
Ok, I'll try again.

Other railcards with a minimum fare, including 16-25 and Family, have
it set at £12 for most of the year (e.g. 16-25 has no restrictions in
July & August). *

Is that better?

Not really.

The Family and Friends Railcard has time restrictions for some
journeys, but no minimum Adult fare. The minimum discounted Child fare
is £1.

David Cantrell August 10th 10 10:33 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 
On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 08:21:26PM +0100, Peter Smyth wrote:
wrote in message
news:82i7o.66843$Gc2.56680@hurricane...
I looked on the website http://splityourticket.co.uk, but it said that
there were no available options on that route, which I found slightly
surprising.

Split ticketing generally only works for long-distance flows where there
is no Day Return available.


But then it can also complain about your journey being too long and
suggest that you try splitting it up by hand. Brilliant!

--
David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire

Compromise: n: lowering my standards so you can meet them

Mizter T August 10th 10 10:58 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 10, 7:46*am, "John @ home" wrote:

On Aug 9, 10:32*pm, Ivor The Engine
wrote: Ok, I'll try again.

Other railcards with a minimum fare, including 16-25 and Family, have
it set at £12 for most of the year (e.g. 16-25 has no restrictions in
July & August). *


Is that better?


Not really.

The Family and Friends Railcard has time restrictions for some
journeys, but no minimum Adult fare. The minimum discounted Child fare
is £1.


It's a whole different discount I know, but I think it worth
mentioning here that on Southern and Southeastern up to four kids
travel for a £1 off-peak when accompanied by an adult with a valid
ticket (inc. season ticket) - same applies on FCC expect it's £2.

John C August 10th 10 11:42 AM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 


"Jon Passenger" wrote in message
...
Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for
£7.85
two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card discounted
super
off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express, with a 15% discount for
buying via the web site.

If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after
all
where do you think I got the price I quoted from?

--
DAS


I can confirm that I've seen that happen (Southern website ignoring
the £13 NSE minimum). That was on a order with a mixture of railcards
- I'd just assumed that the system couldn't cope with the different
restrictions.

Jon


I'm curious to know what happens when the ticket inspector turns up? Is
he/she allowed to excess someone with a ticket for less than £13?

John


Mizter T August 10th 10 12:28 PM

Split Ticketing to Brighton
 

On Aug 10, 12:42*pm, "John C" wrote:

"Jon Passenger" wrote:

Southern give the full third off with no minimum on some of their fares,
which is why I currently travel to London and back (from Brighton) for
£7.85 two or three times/week - that's the current Network Card
discounted super off-peak return fare, routed Not Gatwick Express,
with a 15% discount for buying via the web site.


If you don't believe it why don't you go and look for yourself? - after
all where do you think I got the price I quoted from?


I can confirm that I've seen that happen (Southern website ignoring
the £13 NSE minimum). *That was on a order with a mixture of railcards
- I'd just assumed that the system couldn't cope with the different
restrictions.


I'm curious to know what happens when the ticket inspector turns up? Is
he/she allowed to excess someone with a ticket for less than £13?


Nothing would happen. These tickets are sold from Southern's own site,
after all.


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