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Sorry for the tabloid headline !
08.45 Saturday . . . .Reports of a bendy bus going up in smoke at Victoria bus ststaion - the one at the front of the station, not the coach station (er obviously - but you see what I mean) London Underground services running through but not calling - NR station open with front entrances, not surprisingly, closed. Richard |
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"Fat richard" wrote in message
Sorry for the tabloid headline ! 08.45 Saturday . . . .Reports of a bendy bus going up in smoke at Victoria bus ststaion - the one at the front of the station, not the coach station (er obviously - but you see what I mean) London Underground services running through but not calling - NR station open with front entrances, not surprisingly, closed. Given Boris's hatred for Bendies, shouldn't they be called Ken's Bendies? |
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"Fat richard" wrote in message ... Sorry for the tabloid headline ! Even the worst tabloid would probably be able to spell Boris in a headline though... Paul S |
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On 04/09/2010 08:49, Fat richard wrote:
Sorry for the tabloid headline ! 08.45 Saturday . . . .Reports of a bendy bus going up in smoke at Victoria bus ststaion - the one at the front of the station, not the coach station (er obviously - but you see what I mean) London Underground services running through but not calling - NR station open with front entrances, not surprisingly, closed. Richard Speaking of Victoria, what happened last night that service was suspended between Warren Street and Brixton for about two hours? |
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On 4 Sep, 11:06, "Paul Scott" wrote:
"Fat richard" wrote in message ... Sorry for the tabloid headline ! Even the worst tabloid would probably be able to spell Boris in a headline though... Paul S * My apologies for the spelling, To the other paul, there was supposed to be some irony in my Bor(r)is quote. I am a great fan of the whole its "my" (Bor(r)is' overground when it was Kens idea and a succces and its Kens Bendies when they are useless. Ho hum............ The report I recieved was the flames were high, the fire brigade attended and tha the bus station remains closed for removal of the remains. The LUL station opened 50 minutes after my original post. I am fully aware that the sensationalist world we live in could mean there is simply some scalding on a panel somewhere.? Richard |
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On 04/09/2010 12:02, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:26:47 +0100, " wrote: On 04/09/2010 08:49, Fat richard wrote: Sorry for the tabloid headline ! 08.45 Saturday . . . .Reports of a bendy bus going up in smoke at Victoria bus ststaion - the one at the front of the station, not the coach station (er obviously - but you see what I mean) London Underground services running through but not calling - NR station open with front entrances, not surprisingly, closed. Richard Speaking of Victoria, what happened last night that service was suspended between Warren Street and Brixton for about two hours? Person under a train at Victoria. Any details? |
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On Sep 4, 12:13*pm, " wrote: On 04/09/2010 12:02, Paul Corfield wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:26:47 +0100, " *wrote: Speaking of Victoria, what happened last night that service was suspended between Warren Street and Brixton for about two hours? Person under a train at Victoria. Any details? There's nothing possibly to add to that. What kind of details were you possibly thinking of? It was a person under a train, which is alas a regular occurrence on the network, end of. |
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On Sep 4, 12:25*pm, Paul Corfield wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:13:36 +0100, " wrote: On 04/09/2010 12:02, Paul Corfield wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:26:47 +0100, " *wrote: Speaking of Victoria, what happened last night that service was suspended between Warren Street and Brixton for about two hours? Person under a train at Victoria. Any details? You just had them. I don't do blood and gore posts. You yourself know where the line was suspended and the approximate duration as you stated it above. There's nothing else to say. Quite. |
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On 2010\09\04 13:20, Mizter T wrote:
On Sep 4, 12:13 pm, wrote: On 04/09/2010 12:02, Paul Corfield wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:26:47 +0100, " wrote: Speaking of Victoria, what happened last night that service was suspended between Warren Street and Brixton for about two hours? Person under a train at Victoria. Any details? There's nothing possibly to add to that. What kind of details were you possibly thinking of? It was a person under a train, which is alas a regular occurrence on the network, end of. Jumped, fell or pushed seems a salient point. |
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"Fat richard" wrote in message ... On 4 Sep, 11:06, "Paul Scott" wrote: "Fat richard" wrote in message ... Sorry for the tabloid headline ! Even the worst tabloid would probably be able to spell Boris in a headline though... Paul S The report I recieved was the flames were high, the fire brigade attended and tha the bus station remains closed for removal of the remains. The LUL station opened 50 minutes after my original post. I am fully aware that the sensationalist world we live in could mean there is simply some scalding on a panel somewhere.? The short bit of film I saw on the news suggested a bit more than a bit of smoldering, lots of black and grey smoke shooting upwards in that vigorous way that suggests quite a jolly bonfire underneath. -- Cheers, Steve. Change jealous to sad to reply. |
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Sat, 4 Sep 2010, Basil Jet remarked: There's nothing possibly to add to that. What kind of details were you possibly thinking of? Over on uk.railway, people often ask for the unit number (it's a standing joke). It was a person under a train, which is alas a regular occurrence on the network, end of. Jumped, fell or pushed seems a salient point. If it was fell, and especially if pushed, you'd expect to see a news item about it. -- Roland Perry |
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On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 00:49:07 -0700 (PDT), Fat richard
uttered: Sorry for the tabloid headline ! 08.45 Saturday . . . .Reports of a bendy bus going up in smoke at Victoria bus ststaion - the one at the front of the station, not the coach station (er obviously - but you see what I mean) London Underground services running through but not calling - NR station open with front entrances, not surprisingly, closed. Richard It was MA122 on route 73. It was still there at 11.30. The rear end was no more, as usual. No proper pics as it was in the bus station with the shelters on both sides which were cordoned off. Dave |
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"Fat richard" wrote Sorry for the tabloid headline ! 08.45 Saturday . . . .Reports of a bendy bus going up in smoke at Victoria bus ststaion - the one at the front of the station, not the coach station (er obviously - but you see what I mean) London Underground services running through but not calling - NR station open with front entrances, not surprisingly, closed. I'm somewhat puzzled by this report... I arrived at King's Cross (from Retford) at 0840, travelled by Victoria Line to Victoria (arrived around 0855) and waited for a friend who used the 0544 from Carlisle to Euston then the Victoria Line. He turned up at around 0930 and then we both travelled on the 0953 to East Grinstead for the special Bluebell train from their new platform there. No indication of any problems while we were travelling to, and while we were at, Victoria, and LU seemingly running normally. John (now back in Retford). |
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"Steve Dulieu" wrote in message ... "Fat richard" wrote in message ... On 4 Sep, 11:06, "Paul Scott" wrote: "Fat richard" wrote in message ... The short bit of film I saw on the news suggested a bit more than a bit of smoldering, lots of black and grey smoke shooting upwards in that vigorous way that suggests quite a jolly bonfire underneath. ....and here it is... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11187237 -- Cheers, Steve. Change jealous to sad to reply. |
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On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 22:02:26 +0100, "Steve Dulieu"
wrote: ...and here it is... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11187237 Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK To reply put my first name before the at. |
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Recliner wrote:
Given Boris's hatred for Bendies, shouldn't they be called Ken's Bendies? I think Kendy Bus would sum it up well but it's a bit late now to make that one stick. It's telling that this is one of the few policies where Livingstone is not now promising a return to 2008. |
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On 4 Sep, 22:46, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote: Recliner wrote: Given Boris's hatred for Bendies, shouldn't they be called Ken's Bendies? I think Kendy Bus would sum it up well but it's a bit late now to make that one stick. It's telling that this is one of the few policies where Livingstone is not now promising a return to 2008. I like 'em. I call it the Happy Happy Fun Bus. |
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In message , Neil Williams
writes Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. It seems to be a Citaro thing. -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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Neil Williams wrote:
On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 22:02:26 +0100, "Steve Dulieu" wrote: ...and here it is... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11187237 Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Or are German standards of maintenance higher? |
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On 5 Sep, 09:07, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:34:10 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 22:02:26 +0100, "Steve Dulieu" wrote: ...and here it is... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11187237 Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. *Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Hardly given that Berlin have had several go up in flames over the last year or so. They've only just got round to fitting suppression equipment for their fleet. Citaros have combusted ever since they came off the production line. I've seen plenty of photos of lhd versions looking singed. * I completely agree that whatever the root cause is that it should have been identified and resolved by now. -- Paul C Maybe the insurance makes them cheaper to scrap once they've combusted? |
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On 05/09/2010 05:24, Steve Fitzgerald wrote:
In message , Neil Williams writes Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. It seems to be a Citaro thing. Did anybody on this side of the Channel bother to check these things before a deal was signed? |
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"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message ... In message , Neil Williams writes Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. It seems to be a Citaro thing. As those of us with a perchant for extreme BBQing are wont to say, "Nothing stops the thrill of the grill"..:-) -- Cheers, Steve. Change jealous to sad to reply. |
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"Steve Fitzgerald" ] wrote in message ... In message , Neil Williams writes Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. It seems to be a Citaro thing. I think it is time to re-post Rob Smith's song from 28/09/04, all together now... 'Bendi-fear' is spreading through the capital as people Wake Up To The Dangers of these flame-prone vehicles and start thinking of other ways to get to work. Shamelessly playing on these misgivings, here's my latest topical tribute song. The video will feature Mr Keith Flint dancing in a threatening way in Stockwell Bus Garage, hanging mockingly from the back platform of a Routemaster ("RM") as London whizzes by all speeded up behind him, or silhouetted repeatedly against the flames of another burning bendi. I'm the siren starter, fckin' blaze creator. I'm the safety scandal, danger-illustrator. (hey!) engine trying to start engine trying to start I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. You're the scared commuter, you'll get home much later. I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. I'm the bus you hated, RM-infatuated. Yeah. I'm the smoke you tasted, plastic-seat-related. (hey!) engine trying to start engine trying to start I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. You're the cycle-buyer, back-street route collator. I'm the self-inflicted diesel detonator. Yeah. I'm the heat reflected, twisted metal-maker. (hey!) engine trying to start engine trying to start I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. You're the train preferrer, work-at-home converter. I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter... starter... starter... Starter... -- Cheers, Steve. Change jealous to sad to reply. |
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In message , Steve Dulieu
writes Oy, I spluttered on my Weissbier on that you git. Well played. Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. It seems to be a Citaro thing. I think it is time to re-post Rob Smith's song from 28/09/04, all together now... 'Bendi-fear' is spreading through the capital as people Wake Up To The Dangers of these flame-prone vehicles and start thinking of other ways to get to work. Shamelessly playing on these misgivings, here's my latest topical tribute song. The video will feature Mr Keith Flint dancing in a threatening way in Stockwell Bus Garage, hanging mockingly from the back platform of a Routemaster ("RM") as London whizzes by all speeded up behind him, or silhouetted repeatedly against the flames of another burning bendi. I'm the siren starter, fckin' blaze creator. I'm the safety scandal, danger-illustrator. (hey!) engine trying to start engine trying to start I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. You're the scared commuter, you'll get home much later. I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. I'm the bus you hated, RM-infatuated. Yeah. I'm the smoke you tasted, plastic-seat-related. (hey!) engine trying to start engine trying to start I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. You're the cycle-buyer, back-street route collator. I'm the self-inflicted diesel detonator. Yeah. I'm the heat reflected, twisted metal-maker. (hey!) engine trying to start engine trying to start I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter. You're the train preferrer, work-at-home converter. I'm a firestarter, bendi firestarter... starter... starter... Starter... -- Steve Fitzgerald has now left the building. You will find him in London's Docklands, E16, UK (please use the reply to address for email) |
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On Sep 5, 12:52*am, Offramp wrote:
On 4 Sep, 22:46, "Tim Roll-Pickering" wrote: Recliner wrote: Given Boris's hatred for Bendies, shouldn't they be called Ken's Bendies? I think Kendy Bus would sum it up well but it's a bit late now to make that one stick. It's telling that this is one of the few policies where Livingstone is not now promising a return to 2008. I like 'em. I call it the Happy Happy Fun Bus. That just reminds me of these from when I was growing up in Glasgow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/filtre/214186609/ Meanwhile, the BBC are reporting that Saturday's fire might've been arson: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11192887 |
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On Sep 5, 1:50*pm, "
wrote: On 05/09/2010 05:24, Steve Fitzgerald wrote: In message , Neil Williams writes Given that Citaros are used in very large numbers throughout Germany, you'd think this sort of thing would have been ironed out. Has the modification for right-hand drive perhaps put something hot next to something flammable that isn't the case in the normal LHD model? Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. It seems to be a Citaro thing. Did anybody on this side of the Channel bother to check these things before a deal was signed? Arson suspected now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11192887 |
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 05:24:17 +0100, Steve Fitzgerald ]
wrote: Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. It seems to be a Citaro thing. That's a mark against what seem otherwise well-built buses - though often with a dire interior layout. I reckon that, more recently, Wrightbus's products are better. Probably cheaper as well. Its predecessor, the O405, was (though it looked a bit dated) a very well-designed bus. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK To reply put my first name before the at. |
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In message , at 13:08:25 on Sat,
11 Sep 2010, Mike Bristow remarked: If it was fell, and especially if pushed, you'd expect to see a news item about it. Distinguishing "fell" and "jumped" is probably tricky, and I wouldn't expect a news item for either. There's a trickle of reports for things like pushchairs falling on the track, or people tripping. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6928432.ece -- Roland Perry |
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On 7 Sep, 23:25, Neil Williams wrote:
On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 05:24:17 +0100, Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote: Apparently the German ones are just as fire happy as the London versions. *It seems to be a Citaro thing. That's a mark against what seem otherwise well-built buses - though often with a dire interior layout. long vehicles really don't go with an old city with twisty narrow streets I reckon that, more recently, Wrightbus's products are better. Probably cheaper as well. *Its predecessor, the O405, was (though it looked a bit dated) a very well-designed bus. On the downside, Writebus have a very ugly look for their products. |
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