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On 10 Oct, 13:36, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 03:55:18 on Sun, 10 Oct 2010, lonelytraveller remarked: I have no idea what that is (and therefore how long that is), sorry. For example, are we talking more or less than the distance between the platform faces? The visible portion is slightly shorter than the distance between the platform faces of the northern line. At the end, does it disappear to the left, or the right? To the right (the north) However, we now seem to have cleared up the confusion between "facing the opposite way", and "turning round" (which at first sight are the same activity)... and therefore the new passage would seem to head east and not west. That is much more consistent with being a link to the other new lifts which are on the reconstructed Pentonville Road passage, and (if they also have a "secret doorway") would link all three of the new deep lifts together for emergency purposes. No, it faces west. All phrases such as "facing the opposite way" and "turning round" should be interpreted so that you face west at the end. Go there yourself, and you'll see. The passage faces west. Its a physical thing, and no amount of argument about semantics will ever change the way it actually physically faces. Please excuse me if your description: * * * * "If you go in from the ticket hall, turn round and face the SAME * * * * way as the door you came in through." ...and your later clarification that when you go in that way you have your back to the escalators and are therefore facing west, confused me. Because if you turned round and faced the door you came through, you'd be facing east. That's not semantics. -- Roland Perry You're in the ticket hall, you face the escalators, that's looking east. You go in to the lift facing that direction, then turn round, you are now facing west. I had thought that was obvious. But to avoid any confusion, the passage faces west, any other description should be interpreted in such a way that you conclude it faces west. |
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, lonelytraveller writes Why didn't they direct anyone to the northern line's emergency stairs? I think the short answer is that the fire was initially thought to be small, and that evacuation via the Victoria line escalator was thought to be safe. Add to this the fact that the station had no evacuation plan, and those initially trying to evacuate passengers were two Met police officers and six members of the BTP (BR Eastern Region), none of whom had any detailed knowledge of the station's complex layout. The Fennel Report said that the two Met officers genuinely believed that the Victoria line escalator was the only other available exit. Even when the fire brigade arrived, they couldn't access the station plans or communicate with most of the LT staff (the infamous radio problem) and so they, too, were probably unaware of the emergency stairs. In the end, most of the passengers from the deep-level platforms were evacuated by tube (Victoria line), which was probably safer than encouraging hundreds of panicky people to attempt the long climb up the emergency stairs. -- Paul Terry |
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