On Sep 29, 12:16*am, "Richard J." wrote:
wrote on 28 September 2010 08:13:05 ...

There's also the problem of deciding where in central London the
southbound line say would change from being 'up' (which is normally
but not always TO London) to 'down' - away from London.

Where does the up/down orientation change on Thameslink in central London?

Up and Down swap at the former Farringdon Junction, where the line to
Moorgate used to diverge. Services from the north to Moorgate ran Up
all the way, services to Blackfriars still change designation to Down
at the site of the junction.

In message , Graham Harrison
wrote:
However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to Underground
lines by their geographic direction; it's not just the public signs
that say "Northbound" etc. Is that correct? Did they ever use
up/down?

Yes.

Somewhere I have a 1900-ish working timetable for the District Line that
uses Up and Down (from memory, Up was towards Whitechapel).

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In message , David Hansen
wrote:
I believe up and down were imported from stage coaches.

I was under the impression they came from canals (other terms, like
"lengthman" seem to have done).

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In message , Walter Briscoe
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Central: EW; flips at Hainault.

However, internally it's "Inner Rail" and "Outer Rail" between
Leytonstone and Woodford via Hainault.

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In message , at 23:46:47 on Tue, 28 Sep
2010, Roy Badami remarked:

direction 'forwards' and 'direction backwards' perhaps? ;-)

They are always announcing "this train will be going forward to X", just
in case any passengers might have expected it to go backwards?
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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message
...
In message , Graham Harrison
wrote:
However, it seems that, even "London Transport" refer to Underground lines
by their geographic direction; it's not just the public signs that say
"Northbound" etc. Is that correct? Did they ever use up/down?

Yes.

Somewhere I have a 1900-ish working timetable for the District Line that
uses Up and Down (from memory, Up was towards Whitechapel).

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I take it you mean up to Whitechapel from Earls Court etc.

Roy Badami writes:

2. The circle line tracks are designated as inner and outer (although
the public signage is based on compass points -- see 1 above).

At least while it truly was a circle, would clockwise and anti-clockwise
not have been better designations for the public signage?

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:06:44AM -0700, Railsigns.co.uk wrote:
On 28 Sep, 09:48, Pat Ricroft wrote:
On 28 Sep, 08:22, Frank Erskine wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:12:19 -0700 (PDT), "
I make it a practice to always take an "up" train from Berwick-upon-
Tweed
To where?
To the nearest capital city.
That would be a Down train then.

No, it would be Up. Normal people go Up from Brighton to London, and
Down from York to London. When the journey is clearly north/south, Up
is northbound, and Down is southbound.

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On 2010\09\29 07:21, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 23:46:47 on Tue, 28 Sep
2010, Roy Badami remarked:

direction 'forwards' and 'direction backwards' perhaps? ;-)

They are always announcing "this train will be going forward to X", just
in case any passengers might have expected it to go backwards?

For half of them, it will go backwards.

On 2010\09\29 10:37, Graham Murray wrote:
Roy writes:

2. The circle line tracks are designated as inner and outer (although
the public signage is based on compass points -- see 1 above).

At least while it truly was a circle, would clockwise and anti-clockwise
not have been better designations for the public signage?

They should use "Deasil" and "Withershins" on the Glasgow Subway.