On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:22:45 +0000 (UTC), "Ron"
wrote:
Is anyone aware of a complete list of all and B roads starts and ends?

Follow the links from the UK Roads portal site
(http://www.uk-roads.co.uk/) - efforts are being made to compile such
a list.

Sam
--
Sam Holloway, Cambridge

In article , (Ron) wrote:

Is anyone aware of a complete list of all and B roads starts and
ends?

eg A34 Southampton-Manchester

Trouble is that many of the old trunk roads have been carved up and lost their continuity with the building of by-passes and motorways,
being renumbered as 4-digit A roads or even B roads for whole stretches - e.g. A46 Bath-Lincoln (which for instance is superseded by the
M69 between Coventry and Leicester - why didn't they call that the A46(M)?)

--
Peter Beale

"Ron" wrote in message ...
Is anyone aware of a complete list of all and B roads starts and ends?

eg A34 Southampton-Manchester
Etc

Thanks

Don't know if their lists are complete but http://www.cbrd.co.uk/ is
well worth a look. It even has information on 'C' Roads!

"Peter Beale" wrote in message
o.uk...
In article ,
(Ron) wrote:

Is anyone aware of a complete list of all and B roads starts and
ends?

eg A34 Southampton-Manchester

Trouble is that many of the old trunk roads have been carved up and lost
their continuity with the building of by-passes and motorways,
being renumbered as 4-digit A roads or even B roads for whole stretches -
e.g. A46 Bath-Lincoln (which for instance is superseded by the
M69 between Coventry and Leicester - why didn't they call that the
A46(M)?)


Ditto the A41, now for a long stretch the B4100.

"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
s.com...
"Richard J." wrote in message
...

And the other end of the A34 is Salford, not Manchester, according to
the
Ordnance Survey. (There's a big chunk missing in the middle too, where
it
has been replaced by M40/M42.)

And the A34 has even been redesignated north of Oxford: at one time it
deviated off the present route at Peartree roundabout and went up through
Woodstock to Straford-upon-Avon and beyond, whereas that road has now been
renumbered the A44 and the present A34 was once the A421.

I've often wondered why the MoT/DoT/DEFRA uses a system designed to confuse,
and why they don't adopt the US method of showing roads which share routes
on the signposts. Hence you could follow A34 all the way, rather than have
to know that you need to use the A43/M40/M42/M6 to pick it up again.
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org
E-mail:
URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/

"Peter Beale" wrote in message
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the M69 between Coventry and Leicester -
why didn't they call that the A46(M)?)

Or even the M46!

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

"Peter Beale" wrote in message
o.uk...
In article ,
(Ron) wrote:

Is anyone aware of a complete list of all and B roads starts and
ends?

eg A34 Southampton-Manchester

Trouble is that many of the old trunk roads have been carved up and lost
their continuity with the building of by-passes and motorways,
being renumbered as 4-digit A roads or even B roads for whole stretches -
e.g. A46 Bath-Lincoln (which for instance is superseded by the
M69 between Coventry and Leicester - why didn't they call that the
A46(M)?)

For example, the original A42 was from Reading - Oxford - Birmingham. The
Oxford - Birmingham bit was renumbered to the A34 when this was extended
from Oxford to Manchester, so until the M42 extension to Nottingham was
built there was no A42 for many years.

Angus

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:10:23 +0000 (UTC), "Terry Harper"
wrote:

I've often wondered why the MoT/DoT/DEFRA uses a system designed to confuse,
and why they don't adopt the US method of showing roads which share routes
on the signposts. Hence you could follow A34 all the way, rather than have
to know that you need to use the A43/M40/M42/M6 to pick it up again.

Or how about the European Route Numbering System? [1]

For example, the good old E15 which, in the UK, runs from Dover to Wick,
via the A20, M20, M25, A282 (Dartford Crossing), M25, A1(M), A1, [Repeat
A1(M) and A1 as necessary], A720, A8, A902, A90, M90, A9 and A99. A
distance of 738 miles!

Or the rather odd E32, which runs the 16 miles of A120 from Harwich to
Colchester.

HTH,

Barry

[1] Full List: http://www.elbruz.org/eroads/AGR_2.htm

--
Barry Salter, barry at southie dot me dot uk
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DISCLAIMER: The above comments do not necessarily represent the
views of my employers.

In article , (John Rowland) wrote:

the M69 between Coventry and Leicester -
why didn't they call that the A46(M)?)

Or even the M46!

I was thinking more of the analogy of the A1(M) which takes the place of the A1 in various places. The M1 does not really parallel the A1,
still less the M6 the A6 or the M5 the A5.

--
Peter Beale

In article ,
Barry Salter wrote:

Or the rather odd E32, which runs the 16 miles of A120 from Harwich to
Colchester.

I didn't know that. But once upon a time, the E8 used to run from Harwick
to London via Colchester, and there were signposts erected to show it all
the way. Actually I think the E8 went from Moscow to Hook of Holland, and
maybe westward beyond London, but I only know about the Harwich to London
section. The signs were green with white characters, in many cases just
added to the normal trunk road signs. They were erected shortly after WW
II. Not many years later, I think in the nineteen fifties, some idiot
decided that the UK should not show European road numbers and they were
overpainted with green paint. But many remained until quite recently,
barely legible.


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