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Cast_Iron December 10th 03 10:02 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp



Mark Fry December 10th 03 04:42 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp



Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space
or create less pollution?



DavidM December 10th 03 05:14 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
"Mark Fry" wrote in message
...

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll

road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp

Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space
or create less pollution?


M6 price fixing meeting;
Public retaions director - "We need a ginick to sell this over priced piece
of ****"

Finance director - "Everyone know that disabled drivers only ever drive to
the supermarket and post office. They get those nice big parking spaces
right next to the door. Once inside the supermarket, they spend the disabled
benefit money that was handed to them at the post office"

Public relations director - "So?"

Finance director - "We give them free passes to use our new M6. The lazy
buggy boys will never actually use the motorway. Zero wear and tear, they
pay us for the admin, maximun spaz friendly publicity"

CEO - "Give that man a multi-million pound bonus, and slap an extra 5 quid
on the lorry toll just in case"
The End



Colin December 10th 03 06:25 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"DavidM" djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk wrote in message
...
"Mark Fry" wrote in message
...

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll

road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp

Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less

space
or create less pollution?


M6 price fixing meeting;
Public retaions director - "We need a ginick to sell this over priced

piece
of ****"

Finance director - "Everyone know that disabled drivers only ever drive to
the supermarket and post office. They get those nice big parking spaces
right next to the door. Once inside the supermarket, they spend the

disabled
benefit money that was handed to them at the post office"

Public relations director - "So?"

Finance director - "We give them free passes to use our new M6. The lazy
buggy boys will never actually use the motorway. Zero wear and tear, they
pay us for the admin, maximun spaz friendly publicity"

CEO - "Give that man a multi-million pound bonus, and slap an extra 5 quid
on the lorry toll just in case"
The End


From the number of Blue Badges in cars parked in meter bays I see stamped by
authorities miles outside Greater London, I'd say your assumption that
disabled drivers only go to the local shops in their cars is somewhat
flawed....

(Yes it is sad that I notice this, no I am not a traffic warden).

Colin


DavidM December 10th 03 07:00 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less
space
or create less pollution?


M6 price fixing meeting;
Public retaions director - "We need a ginick to sell this over priced

piece
of ****"

Finance director - "Everyone know that disabled drivers only ever drive

to
the supermarket and post office. They get those nice big parking spaces
right next to the door. Once inside the supermarket, they spend the

disabled
benefit money that was handed to them at the post office"

Public relations director - "So?"

Finance director - "We give them free passes to use our new M6. The lazy
buggy boys will never actually use the motorway. Zero wear and tear,

they
pay us for the admin, maximun spaz friendly publicity"

CEO - "Give that man a multi-million pound bonus, and slap an extra 5

quid
on the lorry toll just in case"
The End


From the number of Blue Badges in cars parked in meter bays I see stamped

by
authorities miles outside Greater London, I'd say your assumption that
disabled drivers only go to the local shops in their cars is somewhat
flawed....

(Yes it is sad that I notice this, no I am not a traffic warden).

Colin


I don't assume any such thing, and I'm not the Finance director. There is no
logical reason why disabled drivers should be given free passes to drive on
the new M6. Hell, some disabled people are almost as normal as me.
It was just a sarcastic guess at their profit motivated reasoning behind the
decision.
david



Joe December 10th 03 07:58 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space
or create less pollution?


No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport
alternatives
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Chris December 10th 03 08:19 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Cast_Iron wrote:
Disabled drivers can get a pass


I'd give my right arm for one of those.



Silk December 10th 03 08:21 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass



I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.


Adrian December 11th 03 07:02 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
Joe ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less
space or create less pollution?


No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport
alternatives


But they're no less able to use the normal M6

MeatballTurbo December 11th 03 08:34 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article , "DavidM"
djm81@ (i hate spam)cam.ac.uk says...
Hell, some disabled people are almost as normal as me.


I would have said that some were far "Closer to normal" :)
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MeatballTurbo December 11th 03 08:35 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...
Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass



I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.


Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by
the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it
was particularly bad.
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Reid December 11th 03 09:06 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
Following up to Adrian

No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport
alternatives


But they're no less able to use the normal M6


If people don't like the M6 toll, why the meanness of spirit in
deflecting the anger onto the disabled? If they get a good deal,
good luck to them. If you don't like the toll, tell your MP.
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Adrian December 11th 03 11:11 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
Reid ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport
alternatives


But they're no less able to use the normal M6


If people don't like the M6 toll, why the meanness of spirit in
deflecting the anger onto the disabled? If they get a good deal,
good luck to them. If you don't like the toll, tell your MP.


It's not "deflection of anger". I personally don't care much either way if
the M6 relief is toll or not. If I'm heading that way, I may well use the
toll road. I also have a blue badge in the car for my mother-in-law (and no,
I don't abuse it), in a wheelchair with MS.

I just don't see the point.

If a disabled driver's using that route, then I don't see the need for a
discount. If they need the time benefit, then great, they're probably doing
it for business, so can pay. If they don't need the time benefit, then fine.
Use the "old" M6.


Harry the Horse December 11th 03 11:16 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
Silk wrote:

No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.

Now that's ironic as driving just makes my back worse.



Cast_Iron December 11th 03 12:03 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Adrian wrote:
Reid ) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

No, but they are normally less-able to make use of
public transport alternatives


But they're no less able to use the normal M6


If people don't like the M6 toll, why the meanness of
spirit in deflecting the anger onto the disabled? If they
get a good deal,
good luck to them. If you don't like the toll, tell your
MP.


It's not "deflection of anger". I personally don't care
much either way if the M6 relief is toll or not. If I'm
heading that way, I may well use the toll road. I also have
a blue badge in the car for my mother-in-law (and no, I
don't abuse it), in a wheelchair with MS.

I just don't see the point.

If a disabled driver's using that route, then I don't see
the need for a discount. If they need the time benefit,
then great, they're probably doing it for business, so can
pay. If they don't need the time benefit, then fine. Use
the "old" M6.


Why not address these questions to the company concerned?
http://www.m6toll.co.uk



Conor December 11th 03 01:04 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...

Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by
the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it
was particularly bad.

You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability
Living Allowance people in Preston.


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A high I.Q is like a Jeep. You still get stuck, just further from help.

MeatballTurbo December 11th 03 01:20 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...
In article ,
says...

Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by
the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it
was particularly bad.

You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability
Living Allowance people in Preston.



You are joking I hope Conor.
While you might be right that I could claim, It hasn't disabled me
enough that I would feel right doing it.

Hasn't affected me for a year, apart from a twinge when the weather got
colder, but that could have been something to do with me crawling and
tristing under the car to rehang the exhaust after a retail park speed
bump knocked it off.

The physio and painkillers sorted it out enough for me to strecth and
move enough to clear it. I won't become one of those people you see on
disabilaty, snapped by a a detective, carrying a piano, or playing
basket ball.
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Gareth A. December 11th 03 01:21 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass



I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.


If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked.

Gareth


Mark Fry December 11th 03 01:27 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Gareth A." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass


I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.


If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked.

Gareth


In a similar vein. I wonder do OAPs get a discount on the M6 toll road? If
not why not?



Conor December 11th 03 01:30 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...
In article ,
says...
In article ,
says...

Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by
the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it
was particularly bad.

You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability
Living Allowance people in Preston.



You are joking I hope Conor.
While you might be right that I could claim, It hasn't disabled me
enough that I would feel right doing it.

Hasn't affected me for a year, apart from a twinge when the weather got
colder, but that could have been something to do with me crawling and
tristing under the car to rehang the exhaust after a retail park speed
bump knocked it off.

The physio and painkillers sorted it out enough for me to strecth and
move enough to clear it. I won't become one of those people you see on
disabilaty, snapped by a a detective, carrying a piano, or playing
basket ball.

No problem then. I just got the impression from your post that it was
giving you alot of grief and you would be entitled. But seeing as
you're pretty much OK then there's no point.


--
Conor

A high I.Q is like a Jeep. You still get stuck, just further from help.

Purditer December 11th 03 02:00 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Mark Fry" wrote in message
...

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll

road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp



Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space
or create less pollution?

Some people resent others getting what they don't.



MeatballTurbo December 11th 03 02:16 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...
No problem then. I just got the impression from your post that it was
giving you alot of grief and you would be entitled. But seeing as
you're pretty much OK then there's no point.


nah, it's fine now. But when it happened, my god. agony. Just about the
only time it was OK was ironically driving, because my legs are
stretched out in front. Work was tolerable, as I sit all day, but
walking, or even just standing was absolute agony.

Siatica is one of those things that you are never cured of though. A
twist in the wrong direction, and the siatic nerve is back where it
shouldn't be, and bingo, walking wounded again.
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Pete Smith December 11th 03 02:42 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...
In article ,
says...
In article ,
says...

Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by
the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it
was particularly bad.

You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability
Living Allowance people in Preston.



You are joking I hope Conor.
While you might be right that I could claim, It hasn't disabled me
enough that I would feel right doing it.


In that case, you're a better person than an _awful_ lot of Blue Badge
holders out there.

On a sort of related issue - my wife is now too pregnant to get out of
normal parking spaces - I've got to stop, let her out, and then move in.

We went shopping last week, and it was a bit drizzly. Bearing in mind her
difficulties, we thought we'd try the Parent & Baby slots. None left
unsurprisingly. Of the 10 or so they had, only _one_ was obviously a car
with baby, having a car seat in it (not that that means much). The rest had
no sign of any baby occupancy.

I then took a look at the disabled slots. Another ~10 of those, but the
_total_ shock was that they were 80% full of blue badge holders! The not
total shock : The 2 that weren't were 4x4s.

Pete.

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Conor December 11th 03 03:15 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...
In article ,
says...
No problem then. I just got the impression from your post that it was
giving you alot of grief and you would be entitled. But seeing as
you're pretty much OK then there's no point.


nah, it's fine now. But when it happened, my god. agony. Just about the
only time it was OK was ironically driving, because my legs are
stretched out in front. Work was tolerable, as I sit all day, but
walking, or even just standing was absolute agony.

Pretty much the way I spent most of 2002-2003.

--
Conor

A high I.Q is like a Jeep. You still get stuck, just further from help.

Adrian December 11th 03 03:34 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Pete Smith ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

On a sort of related issue - my wife is now too pregnant to get out of
normal parking spaces - I've got to stop, let her out, and then move
in.

We went shopping last week, and it was a bit drizzly. Bearing in mind
her difficulties, we thought we'd try the Parent & Baby slots. None
left unsurprisingly. Of the 10 or so they had, only _one_ was obviously
a car with baby, having a car seat in it (not that that means much).
The rest had no sign of any baby occupancy.


Assuming you'd parked there, would your car have had any visible sign of
your wife being pregnant?

Cast_Iron December 11th 03 03:58 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Gareth A." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass


I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.


If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked.


Only if the OAP is physically disabled.



Reid December 11th 03 04:02 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Following up to MeatballTurbo

Siatica is one of those things that you are never cured of though. A
twist in the wrong direction, and the siatic nerve is back where it
shouldn't be, and bingo, walking wounded again.


I would assume an osteopath would be handy when it goes wrong?
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Robin May December 11th 03 05:36 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Conor wrote the following in:


In article ,
says...

Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been
diagnosed by the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it,
and physio when it was particularly bad.

You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability
Living Allowance people in Preston.


It's extremely hard to get DLA. It's daunting to even start tackling
the forms.

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Mark Fry December 11th 03 10:36 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Purditer" wrote in
message ...

"Mark Fry" wrote in message
...

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll

road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp



Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less

space
or create less pollution?

Some people resent others getting what they don't.



I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents
are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does a
disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion?



Mark Fry December 11th 03 10:38 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...

"Gareth A." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass


I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.


If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked.


Only if the OAP is physically disabled.



But why should that be the case? As I said in my initial post, I can't make
sense of the logic of disabled drivers free, everyone else pay.......



Andy Lord December 11th 03 11:00 PM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Mark Fry" wrote in message
...

"Purditer" wrote in
message ...

"Mark Fry" wrote in message
...

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll

road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin.

http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp



Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less

space
or create less pollution?

Some people resent others getting what they don't.



I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents
are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does

a
disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion?

What's pollution or congestion got to do with it? The toll is for providing
an alternative, quicker, route around Birmingham, nothing more. The
exemption for disabled drivers is a PR stunt. The logic being that disabled
drivers really_need_ their_cars.

Filling the new motorway with badly driven Micras will do wonders for
transit times.

Andy



Reid December 12th 03 07:18 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
Following up to Mark Fry

I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents
are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does a
disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion?


If you want to be totally logical, what has the M6 toll road got
to do with pollution? OAPs often get concessions, do they take up
less room?
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Reid December 12th 03 07:18 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
Following up to Andy Lord

The
exemption for disabled drivers is a PR stunt. The logic being that disabled
drivers really_need_ their_cars.


If it is, is it working? The coverage I have read doesn't mention
it.
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JNugent December 12th 03 07:52 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
wrote:

"Mark Fry" wrote:


I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my
parents are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of
it. How does a disable person cause either less pollution or less
congestion?


What's pollution or congestion got to do with it? The toll is for
providing an alternative, quicker, route around Birmingham, nothing
more


....which is merely another way of saying that congestion has *everything* to
do with it.

The new route can only be quicker because of the congestion on the existing
route.



Cast_Iron December 12th 03 07:57 AM

M6 toll, good news
 

"Mark Fry" wrote in message
...

"Cast_Iron" wrote in message
...

"Gareth A." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote:

Chris wrote:

Cast_Iron wrote:

Disabled drivers can get a pass


I'd give my right arm for one of those.


No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back.

If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked.


Only if the OAP is physically disabled.



But why should that be the case? As I said in my initial post, I can't

make
sense of the logic of disabled drivers free, everyone else pay.......



On a practical note, most disabled drivers are exempt from paying Vehicle
Excise Duty. Since the toll is, in effect, a replacement for VED for this
specific stretch of road and the road is considered to be part of the
national network, the same consideration is being extended so that disabled
drivers can enjoy the same convenience for the same price as they do now.

In order to get an M6 Toll pass one has to produce the certificate
confirming that one is exempt from VED.

From a more cynical perspective, it show the company in a good light as they
can be seen to be doing something for the disadvantaged without it costing
them anything.



MeatballTurbo December 12th 03 08:56 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article , dontuse@fell-
walker.co.uk says...
Following up to MeatballTurbo

Siatica is one of those things that you are never cured of though. A
twist in the wrong direction, and the siatic nerve is back where it
shouldn't be, and bingo, walking wounded again.


I would assume an osteopath would be handy when it goes wrong?

Just some exercises setup by a physio, and 6 once a week appointments
with the physio to check progress/improvement.

Biggest thing here was I left it for about 4 months thinking "It'll go
away, just a pulled muscle". before I eventually got bullied into going
to the doctors.

Now, if I get a twinge (normally after working on the car, and crawling
on a cold floot, and twisting my self into a silly shape to get leverage
on a particularly stubborn nut or bolt), I start on the exercise and
stretching straight away, and start with Ibruprofen. And it sorts itself
out almost straight away, within a week at most.
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Pete Smith December 12th 03 10:33 AM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...
Pete Smith ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

On a sort of related issue - my wife is now too pregnant to get out of
normal parking spaces - I've got to stop, let her out, and then move
in.

We went shopping last week, and it was a bit drizzly. Bearing in mind
her difficulties, we thought we'd try the Parent & Baby slots. None
left unsurprisingly. Of the 10 or so they had, only _one_ was obviously
a car with baby, having a car seat in it (not that that means much).
The rest had no sign of any baby occupancy.


Assuming you'd parked there, would your car have had any visible sign of
your wife being pregnant?


It actually would (in this instance) because we've put the baby seat in the
back, because there's no convenient place to store it in the house.

If we'd been in my car, the seat wouldn't have been in the back.

OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to see
someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots. It's normally
lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra 10 feet.

Pete.

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Mike Barnes December 12th 03 12:11 PM

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In uk.transport, Pete Smith wrote:
OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to see
someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots. It's normally
lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra 10 feet.


Also those who prefer a decent-sized parking space instead of the just-
too-small-for-comfort ones the rest of us put up with.

--
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Robin May December 12th 03 01:07 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
Mike Barnes wrote the
following in:

In uk.transport, Pete Smith wrote:
OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to
see someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots.
It's normally lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra
10 feet.


Also those who prefer a decent-sized parking space instead of the
just- too-small-for-comfort ones the rest of us put up with.


I've never known a supermarket car park where the areas further out
(although not much further out) from the shop aren't almost completely
empty. Park there if you want lots of space.

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message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

Another high quality lesson from Robin May:
Your and you're are different words!

Conor December 12th 03 02:09 PM

M6 toll, good news
 
In article ,
says...

It's extremely hard to get DLA. It's daunting to even start tackling
the forms.

I guess lorry drivers must be geniuses then (see other thread) as I had
no problem with the process. Then again my claim was geniune.



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Conor

A high I.Q is like a Jeep. You still get stuck, just further from help.


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