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M6 toll, good news
Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road
for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin. http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp |
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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin. http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space or create less pollution? |
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"Mark Fry" wrote in message
... "Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin. http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space or create less pollution? M6 price fixing meeting; Public retaions director - "We need a ginick to sell this over priced piece of ****" Finance director - "Everyone know that disabled drivers only ever drive to the supermarket and post office. They get those nice big parking spaces right next to the door. Once inside the supermarket, they spend the disabled benefit money that was handed to them at the post office" Public relations director - "So?" Finance director - "We give them free passes to use our new M6. The lazy buggy boys will never actually use the motorway. Zero wear and tear, they pay us for the admin, maximun spaz friendly publicity" CEO - "Give that man a multi-million pound bonus, and slap an extra 5 quid on the lorry toll just in case" The End |
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"DavidM" djm81@(I hate spam)cam.ac.uk wrote in message ... "Mark Fry" wrote in message ... "Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin. http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space or create less pollution? M6 price fixing meeting; Public retaions director - "We need a ginick to sell this over priced piece of ****" Finance director - "Everyone know that disabled drivers only ever drive to the supermarket and post office. They get those nice big parking spaces right next to the door. Once inside the supermarket, they spend the disabled benefit money that was handed to them at the post office" Public relations director - "So?" Finance director - "We give them free passes to use our new M6. The lazy buggy boys will never actually use the motorway. Zero wear and tear, they pay us for the admin, maximun spaz friendly publicity" CEO - "Give that man a multi-million pound bonus, and slap an extra 5 quid on the lorry toll just in case" The End From the number of Blue Badges in cars parked in meter bays I see stamped by authorities miles outside Greater London, I'd say your assumption that disabled drivers only go to the local shops in their cars is somewhat flawed.... (Yes it is sad that I notice this, no I am not a traffic warden). Colin |
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Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less
space or create less pollution? M6 price fixing meeting; Public retaions director - "We need a ginick to sell this over priced piece of ****" Finance director - "Everyone know that disabled drivers only ever drive to the supermarket and post office. They get those nice big parking spaces right next to the door. Once inside the supermarket, they spend the disabled benefit money that was handed to them at the post office" Public relations director - "So?" Finance director - "We give them free passes to use our new M6. The lazy buggy boys will never actually use the motorway. Zero wear and tear, they pay us for the admin, maximun spaz friendly publicity" CEO - "Give that man a multi-million pound bonus, and slap an extra 5 quid on the lorry toll just in case" The End From the number of Blue Badges in cars parked in meter bays I see stamped by authorities miles outside Greater London, I'd say your assumption that disabled drivers only go to the local shops in their cars is somewhat flawed.... (Yes it is sad that I notice this, no I am not a traffic warden). Colin I don't assume any such thing, and I'm not the Finance director. There is no logical reason why disabled drivers should be given free passes to drive on the new M6. Hell, some disabled people are almost as normal as me. It was just a sarcastic guess at their profit motivated reasoning behind the decision. david |
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Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space
or create less pollution? No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport alternatives -- To reply direct, remove NOSPAM and replace with railwaysonline For Train Information, The Latest News & Best photos around check out the Award Winning Railways Online at http://www.railwaysonline.co.uk |
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Cast_Iron wrote:
Disabled drivers can get a pass I'd give my right arm for one of those. |
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Chris wrote:
Cast_Iron wrote: Disabled drivers can get a pass I'd give my right arm for one of those. No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back. |
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Joe ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space or create less pollution? No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport alternatives But they're no less able to use the normal M6 |
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In article , "DavidM"
djm81@ (i hate spam)cam.ac.uk says... Hell, some disabled people are almost as normal as me. I would have said that some were far "Closer to normal" :) -- The poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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Following up to Adrian
No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport alternatives But they're no less able to use the normal M6 If people don't like the M6 toll, why the meanness of spirit in deflecting the anger onto the disabled? If they get a good deal, good luck to them. If you don't like the toll, tell your MP. -- Mike Reid "Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso Walking-food-photos, Wasdale, Thames, London etc "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site and same for Spain at "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Reid ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying : No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport alternatives But they're no less able to use the normal M6 If people don't like the M6 toll, why the meanness of spirit in deflecting the anger onto the disabled? If they get a good deal, good luck to them. If you don't like the toll, tell your MP. It's not "deflection of anger". I personally don't care much either way if the M6 relief is toll or not. If I'm heading that way, I may well use the toll road. I also have a blue badge in the car for my mother-in-law (and no, I don't abuse it), in a wheelchair with MS. I just don't see the point. If a disabled driver's using that route, then I don't see the need for a discount. If they need the time benefit, then great, they're probably doing it for business, so can pay. If they don't need the time benefit, then fine. Use the "old" M6. |
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Silk wrote:
No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back. Now that's ironic as driving just makes my back worse. |
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Adrian wrote:
Reid ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : No, but they are normally less-able to make use of public transport alternatives But they're no less able to use the normal M6 If people don't like the M6 toll, why the meanness of spirit in deflecting the anger onto the disabled? If they get a good deal, good luck to them. If you don't like the toll, tell your MP. It's not "deflection of anger". I personally don't care much either way if the M6 relief is toll or not. If I'm heading that way, I may well use the toll road. I also have a blue badge in the car for my mother-in-law (and no, I don't abuse it), in a wheelchair with MS. I just don't see the point. If a disabled driver's using that route, then I don't see the need for a discount. If they need the time benefit, then great, they're probably doing it for business, so can pay. If they don't need the time benefit, then fine. Use the "old" M6. Why not address these questions to the company concerned? http://www.m6toll.co.uk |
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In article ,
says... In article , says... Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it was particularly bad. You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability Living Allowance people in Preston. You are joking I hope Conor. While you might be right that I could claim, It hasn't disabled me enough that I would feel right doing it. Hasn't affected me for a year, apart from a twinge when the weather got colder, but that could have been something to do with me crawling and tristing under the car to rehang the exhaust after a retail park speed bump knocked it off. The physio and painkillers sorted it out enough for me to strecth and move enough to clear it. I won't become one of those people you see on disabilaty, snapped by a a detective, carrying a piano, or playing basket ball. -- The poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote:
Chris wrote: Cast_Iron wrote: Disabled drivers can get a pass I'd give my right arm for one of those. No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back. If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked. Gareth |
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"Gareth A." wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote: Chris wrote: Cast_Iron wrote: Disabled drivers can get a pass I'd give my right arm for one of those. No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back. If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked. Gareth In a similar vein. I wonder do OAPs get a discount on the M6 toll road? If not why not? |
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In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , says... Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it was particularly bad. You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability Living Allowance people in Preston. You are joking I hope Conor. While you might be right that I could claim, It hasn't disabled me enough that I would feel right doing it. Hasn't affected me for a year, apart from a twinge when the weather got colder, but that could have been something to do with me crawling and tristing under the car to rehang the exhaust after a retail park speed bump knocked it off. The physio and painkillers sorted it out enough for me to strecth and move enough to clear it. I won't become one of those people you see on disabilaty, snapped by a a detective, carrying a piano, or playing basket ball. No problem then. I just got the impression from your post that it was giving you alot of grief and you would be entitled. But seeing as you're pretty much OK then there's no point. -- Conor A high I.Q is like a Jeep. You still get stuck, just further from help. |
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"Mark Fry" wrote in message ... "Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin. http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space or create less pollution? Some people resent others getting what they don't. |
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In article ,
says... No problem then. I just got the impression from your post that it was giving you alot of grief and you would be entitled. But seeing as you're pretty much OK then there's no point. nah, it's fine now. But when it happened, my god. agony. Just about the only time it was OK was ironically driving, because my legs are stretched out in front. Work was tolerable, as I sit all day, but walking, or even just standing was absolute agony. Siatica is one of those things that you are never cured of though. A twist in the wrong direction, and the siatic nerve is back where it shouldn't be, and bingo, walking wounded again. -- The poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , says... Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it was particularly bad. You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability Living Allowance people in Preston. You are joking I hope Conor. While you might be right that I could claim, It hasn't disabled me enough that I would feel right doing it. In that case, you're a better person than an _awful_ lot of Blue Badge holders out there. On a sort of related issue - my wife is now too pregnant to get out of normal parking spaces - I've got to stop, let her out, and then move in. We went shopping last week, and it was a bit drizzly. Bearing in mind her difficulties, we thought we'd try the Parent & Baby slots. None left unsurprisingly. Of the 10 or so they had, only _one_ was obviously a car with baby, having a car seat in it (not that that means much). The rest had no sign of any baby occupancy. I then took a look at the disabled slots. Another ~10 of those, but the _total_ shock was that they were 80% full of blue badge holders! The not total shock : The 2 that weren't were 4x4s. Pete. -- NOTE! Email address is spamtrapped. Any email will be bounced to you Remove the news and underscore from my address to reply by mail |
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In article ,
says... In article , says... No problem then. I just got the impression from your post that it was giving you alot of grief and you would be entitled. But seeing as you're pretty much OK then there's no point. nah, it's fine now. But when it happened, my god. agony. Just about the only time it was OK was ironically driving, because my legs are stretched out in front. Work was tolerable, as I sit all day, but walking, or even just standing was absolute agony. Pretty much the way I spent most of 2002-2003. -- Conor A high I.Q is like a Jeep. You still get stuck, just further from help. |
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Pete Smith ) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying : On a sort of related issue - my wife is now too pregnant to get out of normal parking spaces - I've got to stop, let her out, and then move in. We went shopping last week, and it was a bit drizzly. Bearing in mind her difficulties, we thought we'd try the Parent & Baby slots. None left unsurprisingly. Of the 10 or so they had, only _one_ was obviously a car with baby, having a car seat in it (not that that means much). The rest had no sign of any baby occupancy. Assuming you'd parked there, would your car have had any visible sign of your wife being pregnant? |
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"Gareth A." wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote: Chris wrote: Cast_Iron wrote: Disabled drivers can get a pass I'd give my right arm for one of those. No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back. If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked. Only if the OAP is physically disabled. |
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Following up to MeatballTurbo
Siatica is one of those things that you are never cured of though. A twist in the wrong direction, and the siatic nerve is back where it shouldn't be, and bingo, walking wounded again. I would assume an osteopath would be handy when it goes wrong? -- Mike Reid "Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso Walking-food-photos, Wasdale, Thames, London etc "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site and same for Spain at "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Conor wrote the following in:
In article , says... Really. Now there is a chance. I have siatica. Have been diagnosed by the doctor, and had heavy duty cocodomol to help it, and physio when it was particularly bad. You've got no problem then. Also pop in a claim to the Disability Living Allowance people in Preston. It's extremely hard to get DLA. It's daunting to even start tackling the forms. -- message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith. Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can. Another high quality lesson from Robin May: Your and you're are different words! |
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"Purditer" wrote in message ... "Mark Fry" wrote in message ... "Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin. http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space or create less pollution? Some people resent others getting what they don't. I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does a disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion? |
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"Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... "Gareth A." wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote: Chris wrote: Cast_Iron wrote: Disabled drivers can get a pass I'd give my right arm for one of those. No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back. If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked. Only if the OAP is physically disabled. But why should that be the case? As I said in my initial post, I can't make sense of the logic of disabled drivers free, everyone else pay....... |
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"Mark Fry" wrote in message ... "Purditer" wrote in message ... "Mark Fry" wrote in message ... "Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... Disabled drivers can get a pass which allows free access to the toll road for three years. It costs a fiver for the admin. http://www.m6toll.co.uk/pricing/exemptions.asp Why should any disabled driver get free access, do they take up less space or create less pollution? Some people resent others getting what they don't. I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does a disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion? What's pollution or congestion got to do with it? The toll is for providing an alternative, quicker, route around Birmingham, nothing more. The exemption for disabled drivers is a PR stunt. The logic being that disabled drivers really_need_ their_cars. Filling the new motorway with badly driven Micras will do wonders for transit times. Andy |
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Following up to Mark Fry
I don't begrudge anyone getting something that I can't, both of my parents are registered disabled, but I don't understand the logic of it. How does a disable person cause either less pollution or less congestion? If you want to be totally logical, what has the M6 toll road got to do with pollution? OAPs often get concessions, do they take up less room? -- Mike Reid "Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso Walking-food-photos, Wasdale, Thames, London etc "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site and same for Spain at "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Following up to Andy Lord
The exemption for disabled drivers is a PR stunt. The logic being that disabled drivers really_need_ their_cars. If it is, is it working? The coverage I have read doesn't mention it. -- Mike Reid "Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso Walking-food-photos, Wasdale, Thames, London etc "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site and same for Spain at "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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"Mark Fry" wrote in message ... "Cast_Iron" wrote in message ... "Gareth A." wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 21:21:33 +0000, Silk wrote: Chris wrote: Cast_Iron wrote: Disabled drivers can get a pass I'd give my right arm for one of those. No need. They'll accept a bit of a bad back. If you're an OAP they hand them out no questions asked. Only if the OAP is physically disabled. But why should that be the case? As I said in my initial post, I can't make sense of the logic of disabled drivers free, everyone else pay....... On a practical note, most disabled drivers are exempt from paying Vehicle Excise Duty. Since the toll is, in effect, a replacement for VED for this specific stretch of road and the road is considered to be part of the national network, the same consideration is being extended so that disabled drivers can enjoy the same convenience for the same price as they do now. In order to get an M6 Toll pass one has to produce the certificate confirming that one is exempt from VED. From a more cynical perspective, it show the company in a good light as they can be seen to be doing something for the disadvantaged without it costing them anything. |
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walker.co.uk says... Following up to MeatballTurbo Siatica is one of those things that you are never cured of though. A twist in the wrong direction, and the siatic nerve is back where it shouldn't be, and bingo, walking wounded again. I would assume an osteopath would be handy when it goes wrong? Just some exercises setup by a physio, and 6 once a week appointments with the physio to check progress/improvement. Biggest thing here was I left it for about 4 months thinking "It'll go away, just a pulled muscle". before I eventually got bullied into going to the doctors. Now, if I get a twinge (normally after working on the car, and crawling on a cold floot, and twisting my self into a silly shape to get leverage on a particularly stubborn nut or bolt), I start on the exercise and stretching straight away, and start with Ibruprofen. And it sorts itself out almost straight away, within a week at most. -- The poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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In uk.transport, Pete Smith wrote:
OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to see someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots. It's normally lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra 10 feet. Also those who prefer a decent-sized parking space instead of the just- too-small-for-comfort ones the rest of us put up with. -- Mike Barnes |
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Mike Barnes wrote the
following in: In uk.transport, Pete Smith wrote: OTOH, I've watched people in the past, and it's actually _rare_ to see someone pregnant or carrying a baby to stop in these slots. It's normally lazy *******s who can't be bothered to walk an extra 10 feet. Also those who prefer a decent-sized parking space instead of the just- too-small-for-comfort ones the rest of us put up with. I've never known a supermarket car park where the areas further out (although not much further out) from the shop aren't almost completely empty. Park there if you want lots of space. -- message by Robin May, but you can call me Mr Smith. Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can. Another high quality lesson from Robin May: Your and you're are different words! |
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