On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 10:41:23 -0800 (PST), D7666
wrote:
On Dec 23, 6:32=A0pm, Bruce wrote:
Thameslink can be an amazingly useful
How this route is ever going to sustain 24 TPH
First Group puts shareholder value above all else. =A0As long as there
are no really serious (8 figure) financial penalties for a franchise
holder's non-performance, nothing is going to change and 24 TPH is
just a pipe dream. =A0
First Group has a uniquely deep contempt for its paying customers.
That culture isn't ever going to change unless DfT Rail makes the sort
of threats that brought First Great Western to heel in similar
circumstances. =A0Sadly, I see no sign of that happening with FCC.

heh )

I deliberately worded my comments in terms of route not TOC to prompt
response - but indeed your words are exactly what i really think about
it.

I do not know how First get away with what they do.


Perhaps any investigation into that should start by recording the
history of donations by First Group to the main political parties in
Westminster and Holyrood, also to individual members of those parties.

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(D7666) wrote:

As for PIS and web data ... don;t get me started ...

I think NRE (ATOC) are as much to blame there as FCC themselves.

And there are still no paper timetables from 12.12.10 at most FCC
stations. Indeed, are there any ? I've not seen any yet, I've resorted
to printing out Table 52 pages from NRTT.

There are plenty at Cambridge, not even an FCC station.

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Dec 23, 4:41*pm, Clive Page wrote:
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D7666 writes

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http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...live-train-upd...

Does anybody here think this is helpful or user friendly ?

I don't think it is either. *It shows every sign of having been
programmed by idiots, but we know that FCC seems to have a plentiful
supply of them on hand.

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Clive Page

Just to be sure that we are talking about the same thing, it's the
plan your journey thing where it invited me to put in where from and
to, but didn't invite me to enter a time, and when I clicked "go" it
just reloaded the same page?

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D7666 writes
And there are still no paper timetables from 12.12.10 at most FCC
stations. Indeed, are there any ? I've not seen any yet, I've resorted
to printing out Table 52 pages from NRTT.

I did manage to get one of those from Luton station, around the 12th
Dec. Maybe they have run out now? Unlikely, as for the past 10 days
the actual timetable has had no resemblance at all to the one printed.

What I haven't managed to get is the timetable of Christmas/New Year
alterations: this is a PDF one can download from
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk...Xmas_10_timeta
ble_no24.pdf (what a snappy URL), but I can't really afford to print out
all 109 pages.

Has anyone seen one of those?

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Clive Page

On Dec 23, 10:18*pm, Clive Page wrote:


What I haven't managed to get is the timetable of Christmas/New Year
alterations: *this is a PDF one can download fromhttp://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/static/filemanager/TL_Xmas_10_ti...
ble_no24.pdf (what a snappy URL), but I can't really afford to print out
all 109 pages.

Has anyone seen one of those?

Nope.

Got the PDF.

Hopefully I wont' have to use them at all after tomorrow until jan 4.

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Nick